RSL 2022 In-Season News Thread

Discussion in 'Real Salt Lake' started by Ismitje, Feb 27, 2022.

  1. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Prediction on what we won't see in this thread: manager quits or is fired. Team is sold.

    Prediction on what we will see in this thread: more player acquisitions than normal.
     
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  2. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Careful what you wish for….

    but really I hope RSL not Houston makes a swipe at Hector Herrera to pull him away from Athletico

    Or go really crazy and backup a truck full of cash to Diego Lainez - who could be a u22 DP I believe
     
  3. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's really hard to picture certain players here when you don't even know how the team plays or even lines up.
    It's easy to see a guy like Cuellar fitting in just about any formation though. Is HH better right now? What about in 2 years?
     
  4. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hector Herrera as a marketing piece would be unmatched
    He’s also a hell of a mid - he plays for one of the top teams in europe
     
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  5. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Doesn't look like the site has our roster compliance. Which... not surprising. But to venture a guess, I think this is the breakdown:

    (Senior Spots are 1-20, Supplementals 21-24, 25-28, and 29-30)
    1. Besler
    2. Brody (HG)
    3. Caldwell (HG)
    4. Chang
    5. Cordova
    6. Glad (HG)
    7. Herrera (HG)
    8. Holt (HG)
    9. Kappelhof
    10. Kreilach
    11. Loeffelsend
    12. Luiz
    13. MacMath
    14. Menedez
    15. Meram
    16. Ochoa (HG)
    17. Rubin
    18. Ruiz
    19. Silva
    20. Wood
    21. Halsey (GA)
    22. Schmitt (HG)
    23. Benitez (HG)
    24. Davis (HG)
    25. Kei (HG)
    26. Orozco (HG)
    27. Beavers (HG)
    28. Dewsnup (HG)
    29. Farnsworth (HG)
    30. Wellings (HG)
    Italicized players were listed last year as non-senior roster spots. However, I don't see how they aren't now with how many kids we have.

    Unless I'm mistaken, we don't have an open roster spot currently. Thats... weird. Especially weird when we signed Loeffelsend to a first team contract hours after signing him to a Monarchs contract.

    Last season Fall had the excuse that he was pulling this all of with a hand tied behind his back. That hand has been freed and he's doing the exact same thing in terms of filling the roster before opening day. WTF?

    The last four players on this list don't have a roster designation on the site. That's really weird to me. Everyone else does, theirs is just a blank space. Why is this thing so hard to maintain?
     
  6. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Trey said he believes that the info is ultimately controlled by the league. Which is frustrating because last year other teams' were up to date and RSL wasn't.
    I'm waiting to hear about the MLS NEXT PRO rules in regards to HGs and other MLS players on loan and such. That's the only thing that makes sense at this point.
     
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  7. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the league updates each clubs website?
     
  8. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you look at both, it's almost like the club roster page takes the info from the league page. Maybe it makes sense if you remind yourself all players sign with the league?
     
  9. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good point, however, found instances last year that would suggest they are operated independently: i.e. the league site didn't align with the club site.
     
  10. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't like it, seems like another excuse. Maybe an instance of some clubs being more equal than others?
     
  11. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I read the roster lists often while watching other MLS games. No other is as consistently wrong as ours. That suggests it's internal.

    They are also formatted differently across the board, and if the league managed them, you'd expect uniformity.
     
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  12. georg

    georg Member+

    May 25, 2009
    Parowan, Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like he is going to Houston, but really did we ever really see us making this type of move?
     
  13. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    initially under new ownership? no
    But if this ownership wants to send a very clear signal that they aren't like DLH in terms of investing in the team in meaningful ways, a move similar to this needs to happen in the next 12 months. Be that in the summer lead up to the World Cup or once the World Cup is over. Go get a name. One from Mexico would be solid.

    Heck, you know what would be an absolutely amazing move? RSL signing Carlos Vela who is out of contract in the middle of the season.
     
  14. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes it would! However it would take an obscene amount of cash to do so. He supposedly wants to go back to Europe with a few targets in mind. His backup plan is supposedly Miami. It would take a crazy overpay for him to come to RSL. As much money as the new owners have, they don't strike me as ones to make that kind of move.
     
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  15. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, it's not happening. But man... that would be an insane coup.
     
  16. Taragui

    Taragui Member+

    Aug 13, 2006
    Northern Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    It makes me wonder what additional amount of money it takes for a player to eschew a large market (i.e. greater merch potential/advertising sponsorships) team and come to a place like Utah.

    There is more than just ownership that is challenging. There is location and reputation that plays a part as well. Can that be overcome by salesmanship or just straight up cash?
     
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  17. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    People play in industrial cities, in steamy climates, in scorching heat, in cold and wet and the like. They'll play here too. Not all of them, but enough of them.

    Kansas City is a good example.
     
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  18. Taragui

    Taragui Member+

    Aug 13, 2006
    Northern Utah
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Agreed. It would just be interesting if you could manage to quantify it.
     
  19. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The commodity here is people.
    Irrational, unpredictable, wildly different, people. Quantifying it assumes they act in even remotely the same manner. They don’t

    add the rather unique and curious mechanisms of MLS and this feels like an impossible task. At least not one that results in a high level of confidence
     
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  20. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The most recent Soapbox episode has some good discussion about the HOU game, pre-season, expectations, etc. Trevor in particular had a good take on the expectations/worry/strategy.
    Basically there's some big picture concerns that make it hard to think that better players will fix.
    Anyone else listen yet?
     
  21. SenordrummeR2

    SenordrummeR2 Member+

    Jul 21, 2008
    Layton, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You can skip the first 25 - 30 minutes of the episode. Whole lot of rambling about video games, The Westerner club, and other stuff before they actually get to RSL information.
     
  22. 15 to 32

    15 to 32 Straw Hog

    Jul 1, 2008
    Salt Lake
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Listen to Random Fan podcast instead, on spotify
     
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  23. Med_Phys

    Med_Phys Member+

    RSL
    United States
    Jun 20, 2019
    Terre Haute, IN
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is it only on Spotify?
     
  24. goobx1

    goobx1 Member+

    Jul 9, 2007
    Salt Lake
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