(Round of 16) Germany Vs Algeria June 30

That's some good photochop!

 

Shouldn't it be the other way around? We were expected to win, not in extra time but in regular time. If anyone's fighting spirit should be praised it's the Algerians. They had some phenomenal chances and were the only team to put the ball in the net in the first 90, even if it was a close offside.

Gotze better be on the bench. Lahm better be at the back. And Lowe better throw that high line out the window or France will run wild with Benzema, Griezmann and Valbuena.

 

Ballack seems to agree. Like his perspective.

As a commentator he is not as egotistical as some.

http://web.de/magazine/wm-2014/deut...ballack-giftet-philipp-lahm-joachim-loew.html

 

Tore2:1Tore
Torschüsse28:10Torschüsse
gespielte Pässe793:380gespielte Pässe
angekommene Pässe682:260angekommene Pässe
Fehlpässe111:120Fehlpässe
Passquote86%:68%Passquote
Ballbesitz67%:33%Ballbesitz
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Kaderübersicht Deutschland

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Kaderübersicht Algerien

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Gefoult worden18:10Gefoult worden
Abseits4:4Abseits

 

what you call misconceptions and irrational bias towards a player or idea is not because they did not see a player in the World Cup. I am sure people who dislike Neuer will keep thinking the same despite yesterday's game, by saying Neuer is reckless and that he could have lost that ball where he had to run alongside the Algerian player and tackle at the exact time...

The same way that seeing this World Cup has reinforced my view that yes, tiki-taka is over, which you consider a ridiculous view...

 

so why weren´t his arms up like a ballerina nor his face in terrible pain? lol

it was a really weird fall, and it messed the whole play... quite sure it took the concentration out of the man that ended up kicking the ball, and he kicked the ball low, directly on the Algerian wall.

 

So, I gotta say....did we look as bad as we did because we didn't score on the 4 close to clear cut chances we had?


Or did we just look that bad?

 

That was U15 training ground crap...not worthy of a potential world champion.

 

So looking at the stats again .. its 38 goal chances in 120 minutes that makes it a goal chance every 3min 9 seconds on average.. no wonder this game felt so hectic.

 

Now imagine what the French must be thinking now... Slick move Jogi.

 

We looked bad, unprepared, and shocked at the same time. Looked like they didn't know what to do because they didn't expect to have a game to play.

 

I think Ballack is out to lunch on this assessment. The problem is not ego.... the problem is we desperately need a defensively solid midfielder in front of the back 4.... and Lahm is the best option.

This whole conversation is being accentuated because Loew feels the need to play CB's as FB's. If we played Durm.... I doubt this would be much of a conversation.

 

No offense, but you could have Hoeness, Overrath, Bonhof and Netzer in front of that back four and they would STILL suck...and so woult Loews tactics.

 

with some of things i've read I just can't tell anymore.

 

lol..... that doesn't change the fact that IF (and I agree that Loew is wrong here) he fields the existing all CB back four..... we need Lahm in front of them.

That's a role that Schweini, Khedira or Kroos cannot play.

 

You saying that Piggy, Khedira and Kroos cannot play DM?

 

Well, looking at the last few games, neither is Lahm as DM.

 

That's just a ridicilous comment in regards to Schweinsteiger who has always been better than Lahm when it comes to direct duels. So far we haven't been a single bit more stable with Lahm in CM. The only thing that did help was the simple fact that we moved a very attack minded player like Özil to the wings and replaced him with a more balanced one (Kroos) but that can be achieved without Lahm too.
I'm saying this as someone who does rate Lahm in CM but it's not like he has been a big help for Germany so far and considering our weak FBs it hurts us more than it did Bayern to use him in a time of CM shortage.

 

All three can.... but none of those three bring the same skillset that Lahm does. I'm a huge Schweini fan..... but he is much more effective when given the right to push forward. Given our sloth-like back four..... I don't like how that would expose us.

I'll say it again..... IF we played a back 4 of Lahm, Merte (or Boa), Hummels, and Durm.... I would be fine with that. However if Loew feels the need to play 4 CB's, then we need Lahm where he is.

 

I think this is an excellent point. We did look ugly, regardless of the score. But if Mueller (and a few others) had finished some of those "easy" chances, it would neither have looked as bad nor been as frustrating to watch. I think there would have been the sense that: this is a crappy game, but at least we're winning comfortably. A lot of my problem with the play was that we were clearly the better team but playing so complacent, cumbersome, lethargic while Algeria were playing their hearts out. Up 2-0 or 3-0, still frustrating, but doesn't feel foolish. ...my 2 cents.

I am looking forward to the next round. I believe our football will rise to the challenge of a respectable foe and we will win by a goal. We were by no means the only contender who had a tough time getting out of the round of 16.

 

Goetze and Mustafi's performance against Algeria were the worst that I've seen by any German player in any world cup so far.

 

Sad to see Goetze has becoem a mediocre like he is