Roster Shuffle

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by firstshirt, Oct 19, 2009.

  1. oneword

    oneword Member

    Oct 6, 2008
    Osei out, he has created to many goal chances for other teams, if he was not playing im sure our point situation would be a little less grim. I am tired of holding my breath evertime the ball goes to him.
     
  2. burud111

    burud111 Member

    Jul 20, 2007
    Connecticut
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Keep:
    Twellman - Hes a great player.
    Joseph - Duh
    Ralston - i guess
    Mansally - not being used properly.
    Alston - duh
    Igwe - biggest fan. should replace heaps.
    Osei - cheap and sufficient
    Barnes - see Osei
    Reis - sure
    Colaluca - has potential
    Badilla/Castro - pick one
    Dube - Very good backup forward.
    Assengue - lets actually play him
    Videira - one more year
    Knighton - showed promise

    Maybe:
    Larentowicz - if they can keep him for around 100-120k
    Jankauskas - Love him, but theres no point if hes never on field.
    Shuttleworth - depends
    Heaps - love him, but since i crush on igwe, might explore trades while heaps' stock is high

    Dump:
    Nyassi - No progress.
    Badilla/Castro - pick the other one.
    Thompson - awful.
    Phelan - sub-par
    Tierney - could probably be easily replaced
    Albright - too much $ for a bench player

    thats about 450k for 6 roster spots freed up. thats 6 90k players. maybe different if CBA changes.
     
  3. Soccer Doc

    Soccer Doc Member+

    Nov 30, 2001
    Keene, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree with almost all of your choices and reasoning except I would definitely keep Larentowicz if possible and I'd be shocked if Heaps was cut/retired/traded. He's still a good multipurpose back line option. Of course they will likely expose him (and Albright) again in the draft and he could get picked by Philly
     
  4. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No way Nyassi is going anywhere. For the peanuts he is being paid, his potential and being only 20 its a not brainer to keep him. Not sure what you see in Igwe but by MLS standards, no way is he worth 108k a year. if he loses his GA status, the only way he should stay on is if he takes a decent pay cut
     
  5. JMMUSA8

    JMMUSA8 New Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    Webster
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You are out of your mind if you think they are going to trade Heaps.
     
  6. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    You don't think teams would be exceptionally suspicious if a team that is desperate for an experienced forward and goal-scorer, isn't in a particularly bad situation cap-wise, is looking to trade it's long-injured, 100 goal scorer?

    The only way I see anyone offering anything would be on a conditional deal - in which case we'd be guaranteed to lose. If he doesn't perform, we get diddly, if he does, we look like fools.
    Defense was rarely our problem this year. Sure, there were dicey moments, but the end result most of the season was that our defense kept us in games and gave us a chance to win. I think we should focus on the offense.

    If we're concerned about distribution, I suggest we start by looking at Heaps and Reis (who ends up with his punts and gk's? Hint: not the Revs.).
    Why does Reis get a pass from everyone? How about that innocuous long shot that killed us in a critical game vs. Columbus? Even IF Reis *thought* Osei would clear it, shouldn't he have lined up to catch it "just in case"?

    And, for all of the communication snafus with Osei, Reis had some last year with Badilla also. It can't always be the other guy's fault.
    Totally agree on Nyassi. And I expect Igwe to sign for less. He has little bargaining power until he can lock down a starting spot.
    Sure, but one can dream ...
     
  7. burud111

    burud111 Member

    Jul 20, 2007
    Connecticut
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, I don't think they will trade him. I meant to put him in the keep, but give Igwe a chance. And yes, Igwe would have to take a pay cut.
     
  8. peabrainedidiot

    peabrainedidiot New Member

    Nov 21, 2005
    wessagussett
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    nah, igwe is useless. nothing I saw last night makes me thing he's worth keeping.
    I saw missed tackles, poor clearances (especially using his head), saw him regularly not being in the right place on the field leaving men open. he almost gave up a PK on that late in the game take down (which he also handled the ball, luckily the ref didn't see it). His judgment and vision of the run of play are poor. he will never be anything more than a bench player. Tierney in his very short few minutes looked better than igwe. any college kid we pull out of the draft in the 1st 3 rounds can do what Igwe does. Barnes and Alston have already surpassed him. He's clearly not really competing for a spot.

    Jay Heaps with 2 broken legs in a coma would be better than igwe.

    I've seen a few posts lately about heaps. we saw exactly why he is so important to this team. Even though he has gotten older and a little slower, he is still a leader on the field, especially in defense. He had a massive game last night. Sure, sometimes his distribution fails him, but he's still a much better than average defender in this league. His vision on the field is amazing (unlike Igwe). He may not have the speed, but he has excellent judgment and is usually in the right place to make a clearance. We lose heaps and I think we see this defense crumble. The other guys just don't have the experience. He keeps the back organized.
     
  9. Jon Martin

    Jon Martin Member+

    Apr 25, 2000
    SE Mass
    I'm pro-Igwe.
     
  10. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Igwe will be in a world of poop if this coming draft produces another Barnes type player that can handle the left side
     
  11. REV-OKe

    REV-OKe Member

    Apr 4, 2001
    lucklily THAT jay heaps only plays for the USMNT.
     
  12. peabrainedidiot

    peabrainedidiot New Member

    Nov 21, 2005
    wessagussett
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    lol. ouch. (must spread rep....) that was funny though
     
  13. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    Wow, you'd think there'd been a boatload of goals given up or started in his area in the games he's played this season. Let me think, there have been ... uh, none.
     
  14. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does not matter
    Igwe = 108,000 caps space hit when his GA is lifted. decent speed limited defensive ability and very little growth in his 3 years
    Barnes = 34,000 cap space, decent speed. Good defender, strong in the air, unlimited upside.

    Again, if the Revs find another defender like Barnes in the draft and the GA status is taken from Igwe, his job is on the line. Why pay 108k to a player that has now grown much if any when you can pay 34k to a rookie with equal or greater ability and more potential?
     
  15. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I like Barnes, but unlimited upside?
     
  16. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    might be a reach but you get my meaning
     
  17. REV-OKe

    REV-OKe Member

    Apr 4, 2001
    have you seen how far the dude can throw the ball?

    If my name was Mr. Brady, i'd be looking over my shoulder.
     
  18. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I did notice last game that Alston has a pretty darn good throw too.
     
  19. Revs in 2010

    Revs in 2010 Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Roanoke, VA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm to the point where I'd like to see more of Alston, rather than playing the "catch with the 'Keeper" game that we seem to have gotten with Barnes' throws lately.

    BTW, both Alston and Barnes are huge upgrades on Heaps who was our previous long-throw guy.
     
  20. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    its too bad barnes puts alot of air under it, it would be nice to see a few line drives. Then again, nothing wrong with actually throwing it to a teammate
     
  21. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just mix it up ... that's all I've been asking. It's constantly a long throw, and it never works, and it just gets annoying.
     
  22. MarkyMark

    MarkyMark Member

    Jun 27, 2008
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Barnes can throw in a decent ball into the box, with the hope being I guess that Joseph or Jankauskas heads the ball over to someone else who takes a shot or something. I think the Revs got a penalty kick off of a Barnes throw in, but now it seems like the best result is the opposing players can't handle it and put the ball out for a corner kick. That's happened a handful of times, although I can't remember the Revs scoring on a corner kick this year.
    The problem now is other teams now the plan so they triple team the target of the throw, usually Shalrie, and muscle him out of the play altogether.

    Alston has a long throw-in also, maybe not as long as Barnes. But Alston's is more of a "pop fly" to Barnes' "line drive."

    I, too, am a little tired of seeing this done on every throw in close to the other teams box. Maybe a shorter throw to Mansally or Nyassi for a cross would be better.
     
  23. BrianLBI

    BrianLBI BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 7, 2002
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is that true? I'm not sure Igwe's salary stays the same when he graduates from GA. I'm curious how this works.

    In any event, I hope he keeps GA for one more year. I like him on the left, and Jay may be nearing his expiration date.
     
  24. Soccer Doc

    Soccer Doc Member+

    Nov 30, 2001
    Keene, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When he graduates from GA he has to compete for a roster slot and sign a new contract. The Revs will likely resign him at a significantly lower Cap hit.
     
  25. MarkyMark

    MarkyMark Member

    Jun 27, 2008
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just a reminder, based on the Climbing the Ladder analysis of Generation Adidas, it appears unlikely that Amaechi Igwe or Nico Colaluca will graduate from the program during this off-season. Kevin Alston, on the other hand, probably will.
     

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