Ross Paule traded to Crew

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  1. soccerdad

    soccerdad Member

    Dec 27, 1998
    montclair nj
    According to Ledger, Paule traded for Chris Leitch and Jeff Matteo, two midfielders. Source was Paule himself.

    According to Ledger (in "Sport Shorts" - no link) since Paule was waived but unclaimed, Metro retained his rights and could trade him.

    So why didn't C'bus just claim him off waivers in the first place? Is this an MLS machination to move players under the guise of "rules." Maybe someone who understand this stuff can explain it.

    Also, what about the two pickups, Leitch and Matteo?
     
  2. Sneever Flion

    Sneever Flion New Member

    Oct 29, 2002
    Detroit, MI
  3. soccerdad

    soccerdad Member

    Dec 27, 1998
    montclair nj
    no link
     
  4. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    Metro still owned his rights. In theory, the same type of deal would go down if someone wanted Balboa, Ramos or Andy Williams.
     
  5. IrishCrew

    IrishCrew New Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    CanalWinchester
    Yeah I for one would love to see the link. According to the pre-season reading on the Crew Matteo and Leitch both were recieving PT. Nothing was said or mentioned about Paule. Leitch to be accurate is a defender. Played some 6-8 games at Right back last season. Matteo kept our bench warm most of the season but Leitch shows promise while still developing.
     
  6. Dan R

    Dan R New Member

    Jun 1, 1997
    Metro
    It should be official later today.
     
  7. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
  8. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
  9. Norsk Troll

    Norsk Troll Member+

    Sep 7, 2000
    Central NJ
    And Chicago might want Williams. Just for fun, whom do you think we would get in a trade? I doubt they'd part with any of their P-40s (Capano, Mapp, Jaqua or Pause) or Kelly Gray, which leaves some of the following: Chad Dombrowski (D), Rob Friend (F) (Canadian, turned 22 in January), Ryan Futagaki (M), Ryan Mack (M), Mike Nugent (F, DP), Damani Ralph (F) (Jamaican, turned 22 in November), Dipsy Selolwane (F) (Botswanan, 25), Phil Swenda (F). Of those, only Nugent and Selowane were with the team last year (so Bradley knows what they are capable of).
     
  10. Gamblor

    Gamblor New Member

    May 17, 1999
    Jeff Matteo is a nice pickup IMO. I've seen him play several times at St. John's. He was usually the most skillful player on either team when they played. He also was a complete bulldog in the midfield, never giving up on any 50/50 ball and constantly moving/working. The main knock against him going into the draft was his size (he's Richie's size).

    He had 9 goals and 10 assists in his last 2 seasons at SJU.

    http://www.thecrew.com/club/bio.cfm?ID=77&mode=1
     
  11. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    Thanks for the memories Jeff Moore.
     
  12. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    There was a bit of a soap opera concering Matteo possibly going to a lower Italian division team last summer, which is why he didn't report to the Crew until pretty late in the season.

    As for Leitch, someone on the Crew boards would know better but I think he was on a developmental contract last year and earned a "real" contract as a result -- so he may have some promise.

    Of those Fire players, Dombrowski and Mack were cut (though the team may still have rights to them, no idea how that works). Rob Friend is a big striker who I thought had a contract with Moss in Norway -- but that wouldn't explain why he's with the Fire.
     
  13. myshap

    myshap Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
  14. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
  15. smith

    smith New Member

    Nov 1, 2000
    here's what the Crew had to say when the signed matteo last year:

    CREW SIGNS MIDFIELDER AND 2002 DRAFTEE JEFF MATTEO TO DEVELOPMENTAL CONTRACT
    Selected by Columbus in the second round of the 2002 MLS SuperDraft, following his senior season at St. John's, Matteo has been playing for Westchester of the USL D3 Pro League

    COLUMBUS, Ohio - Columbus Crew President/General Manager Jim Smith
    announced today that the club has signed 2002 draftee Jeff Matteo to a
    Developmental Contact for the remainder of the season. Terms of the deal
    were not disclosed.

    Matteo, who celebrated his 22nd birthday last week (August 8), was
    selected by The Crew in the second round (No. 20 overall) of the 2002 MLS
    SuperDraft, following a stellar four-year career at St. John's University.
    After attending training camp with The Crew, he played in the Italian third
    division (Serie C1) for Monza, before returning to finish the USL D3 Pro
    League season with the Westchester (N.Y.) Flames, whose season just ended.
    Matteo played in 12 games with the Flames, tallying five points on one goal
    and three assists.

    "Jeff is a dynamic young player and we are pleased to have come to
    terms with him," said Crew head coach Greg Andrulis. "We have remained in
    close contact with him since training camp and look forward to both his
    return and future contributions to our club."

    At St. John's, Matteo was a two-time first-team All-Big East selection who paid a visit to Columbus last December to play in the 2001 NCAA Men's College Cup, when he scored the Red Storm's lone goal in its 2-1 overtime loss to Indiana in the national semifinals. Named the Big East Midfielder of Year as a senior last fall, Matteo played in 88 games in his St. John's career and scored 55 points, on 17 goals and 21 assists.

    "I am really happy to be in Columbus," Matteo said. "It was an unusual situation how it ended up, but I am excited for the opportunity. I am going to work hard and give it my all every day and do whatever the coaches and team need me to do."

    Matteo will wear uniform No. 24 for The Crew and he will be available for selection on Wednesday, when Columbus plays host to the Los Angeles Galaxy on the third and final Johnsonville Buck-a-Brat Night of the season.

    Jeff Matteo Thumbnail Bio
    Position: Midfielder
    Born: August 8, 1980 (Poughkeepsie, N.Y.)
    Hometown: Stormville, N.Y.
    Height: 5-5
    Weight: 140 pounds
    College: St. John's University
    How Acquired: Selected by The Crew in the second round (No. 20 overall) of
    the 2002 MLS SuperDraft. Signed
    to a Developmental Contract on August 13, 2002.
    Pro Outdoor Experience: Westchester Flames, D3 Pro League (2002); Monza,
    Serie C1/ Italian third division (2002)
     
  16. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    That's it -- Monza. Numerous people on the YA board were never able to confirm that he was ever actually at the club. It's almost certain that he never played. He may have been there on a short-term contract or something.
     
  17. Metrosuccess

    Metrosuccess Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is such a great league. You waive a player and nobody wants him. Then however , a team trades for him so you get something back instead of nothing. MLS rules seem somewhat flexible at times.
     
  18. Beowulf

    Beowulf New Member

    Dec 2, 1998
    The same rule applies in all US professional leagues. Recent NHL example: Jason Wooley was put on waivers by Buffalo. He cleared waivers, remaining their property. He was then traded to Detroit for future considerations.
     
  19. sdipar

    sdipar New Member

    Dec 30, 1999
    I think that it may be a little different in the MLS with the low team salary caps. Players with value can be waived because of the salary squeeze. The mid-range salaried players get squeezed every year in this league. So, a player with value (greater value than those willing to play for the league minimum, or close to it) has to test his value with other teams by not accepting the low ball offers. The teams are in a box by having to let these players go that have greater value than those they can afford and the players are in a box because their options are limited. But it still doesn't seem right to have to compensate for a player you waived.
     
  20. eric d

    eric d Member

    Sep 9, 1998

    Me thinks you don't understand waiver rules at all.
     
  21. sdipar

    sdipar New Member

    Dec 30, 1999
    What I understand and what doesn't seem right can be two different things. But that may be a little too complex for you. Sorry, I didn't mean to pull you back out from under your rock again.
     
  22. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    Oh, thats rich..........
     
  23. eric d

    eric d Member

    Sep 9, 1998

    I always come out from my cave (not rock) to point out the stupid, ill informed "facts" you like to post. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
     
  24. Dan R

    Dan R New Member

    Jun 1, 1997
    Metro
  25. Sweeper

    Sweeper New Member

    Feb 11, 1999
    Stats boy Dan, what do you know abt the waiver draft?
     

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