Rosario Central...el thread mas canalla! 2006/2010 (r)

Discussion in 'Argentina: Clubs' started by albionroad, Sep 6, 2005.

  1. Andrés_

    Andrés_ Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Argentina.
    Club:
    CA Independiente
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Well a common mock is that the next "Rosario's classic" will be between Rosario Central and Tiro Federal.

    In general has been a poor year for most of the clubs of Rosario in the top 5 divisions, since Rosario Central, Central Cordoba and Argentino de Rosario all got relegated, Newell's had a somewhat good season but couldn't even reach the groups stage of the Libertadores and Tiro Federal had a pretty bad season in the second division.
     
  2. msi2

    msi2 Member

    Aug 15, 2008
    Paris, FRANCE
    Well there are less and less talent coming out from Rosario unlike before... maybe a coincidence?
     
  3. Andrés_

    Andrés_ Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Argentina.
    Club:
    CA Independiente
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Maybe, but not sure how much, like with Argentinos Juniors, they had very little success with all their talent too. Though Argentinos Juniors would seem as the counter-example. But on the other hand, Di Maria and Conca were together at Rosario Central for a brief period in which they were atrocious, so not sure. The problem could be is that their squad ended up being too young at for a while in these past 3 seasons and they ended up paying for that. Note that being a double-affiliation team Rosario Central is still unique, because it has one of the biggest youth squad pools around. And possibly that would be an explanation for Central's case the others, well don't have that much tradition of anything as it's.

    EDIT: Looking at it a little bit you may be right about Rosario Central's case, just looking at the national team, of the 23, only one was a Rosario Central's youth product, compared to the three of Newell's. And other potential national team players come from Newell's, like Garay.
     
  4. elbp

    elbp Member

    Feb 1, 2007
    Cordoba, ARG
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  5. jpbrach

    jpbrach New Member

    Nov 19, 2010
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Rosario Central is something that only we can understand. It's just unbeliaveble. It's my life, our life.
     
  6. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    What does double-affiliation mean?
     
  7. Andrés_

    Andrés_ Member

    Nov 16, 2007
    Argentina.
    Club:
    CA Independiente
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    They're clubs that are considered "directly affilied" but are also affilied to a regional league so could also be considered "indirectly affilied", for example Godoy Cruz is "indirectly affilied" and is affilied to Mendoza's regional league, River is considered "directly affilied" and isn't affilied to any regional league(for one there doesn't exist a regional league they could be affilied to either way). In reality they kind of run with an adventage, maybe not as clear on the first division, but for example in the second division there isn't a reserves tournament, well the majority of them doesn't need it because they have the reserves playing in the regional league(which is also why they fail most of the time to get the 20 teams of the first division to play the reserves tournament, some prefer to stick to the regional league), though Rosario Central is a special case because they have a second team representing them on Rosario's regional league known as Rosario Central B(which in reality would be Rosario Central C) playing in Rosario's league 2nd division, though i think they have some rules regarding the players they can field i think they can field only 2 or 3 players above 23 years old.
     
  8. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Thanks Andres. Rosario and Ferro Oeste are two teams that, because of their tradition, need to get their behinds back in the Primera.
     
  9. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Referee Diego Ceballos, provisionally suspended last week after his errors in the Copa Argentina final, has been stripped of his international status, according to the Argentine FA. Ceballos, who officiated in Boca Juniors' 2-0 win over Rosario Central in the final of the knockout competition, wrongly awarded Boca a penalty kick for a foul committed outside the penalty area and allowed a goal that was scored from an offside position. "By decision of the (AFA) president, Mr. Luis Segura, Mr. Diego Ceballos has been withdrawn from the List of International Referees", the AFA said. "This measure will immediately be communicated to FIFA", it added in a statement on its website.
    Last week, AFA president, Luis Segura, suspended referee Diego Ceballos and assistant referee Marcelo Aumente following questionable decisions in the Copa Argentina final between Boca Juniors and Rosario Central. Boca Juniors, who on Sunday won the Argentine league, beat Rosario Central 2-0 in the final. "The president of the Argentina Football Association, Mr. Luis Segura, has decided to put referee Mr. Diego Ceballos and the assistant referee Mr. Marcelo Aumente on leave for an undetermined amount of time", AFA said in a news release. Ceballos ruled three key decisions in favour of Boca Juniors, the first, a decision to disallow a Marco Ruben header for offside some 10 minutes before halftime. The goal would have given Rosario the lead. The second came seven minutes into the second half, when Boca right back Gino Peruzzi made a forward break, and was brought down by opposing left back Paulo Ferrari. The foul took place some distance outside the area. But Ceballos pointed to the spot, and Nico Lodeiro calmly slotted home the penalty. The third came in the final minute when Boca's Marcelo Meli cut through the left side of the Central defence and squared for substitute Andres Chavez to tap in, but Chavez was offside. His was missed by Aumente, the very same assistant who had spotted Central Larrondo offside by maybe an inch in the first half. AFA's decision marks the first time in league history that the federation has suspended a referee for a questionable call. The decision to put Ceballos on leave was announced after Ceballos made the trip from Cordoba to Buenos Aires for the Lanus match. Segura said the federation will review its protocol of assigning and evaluating referees.
     
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  10. RiverGaucho

    RiverGaucho Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Its all well and good the AFA is taking his international license and what not, but how much did they pay him before hand? Honestly, it was clearly fixed. The afa clearly told him he would lose his international status and that he'd be suspended, but it would be worth it. I haven't seen a match so obviously rigged since Carlos Amarilla in the boca vs. corinthians in 2013 copa libertadores
     
  11. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey River thanks for the reply...I'm a long time referee and I have no "dog in the hunt", but I've seen the last nonoffside video replay about 5 times and I'm still not convinced that was actually offside.
     
  12. RiverGaucho

    RiverGaucho Member+

    Jan 23, 2010
    Buenos Aires
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    That last off side didn't matter. What mattered, was Rosario's goal wrongfully disallowed- it would have given them the lead. Then there was boca's penalty- which first of all, was not a foul, second of all the "incident" took place 2 meters outside the area. It was farcical. Boca Juniors is used to this kind of thing. Its a club with the AFA and the referees on their side.
     
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  13. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yeah I didn't see the goal which was disallowed, but the PK call was dubious...and I agree that whatever took place was not inside the 18.
     

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