Rooney???

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by Charlie, Oct 10, 2002.

  1. Charlie

    Charlie New Member

    Jan 4, 2000
    What is the status of Rooney? I know he was injured for a while and NE went on a winning streak so he couldn't get back into the starting 11. However, last night was the perfect opportunity to put him in for DH and Nicols doesn't.

    I think I would be in agreement that there is no contest that Rooney is the better choice between him and Cloutier. Nicols should have been putting Rooney in as a sub instead of Cloutier all along so that he would be game ready if DH was suspended or injured.

    I think this is bad coaching. I am not going to mock a coach that has put us 1 game away from the final but, how do you go from being captain, playing every minute to not even being considered? Again, I think this shows bad coaching. You know Nichols never thought much of Chacon since he has never seen much playing time with Nichols in charge. But Rooney was his choice of captain and now this?

    Does anyone know the inside scoop on this issue?
     
  2. keegofan

    keegofan New Member

    Oct 30, 2001
    Mass.
    I don't have any scoop, but Rooney was looking pretty awful before the injury and I doubt it's an accident that the winning streak happened to start a game after he went out.

    Rooney should end his Rev career on the bench.

    KF
     
  3. Gregor

    Gregor New Member

    Jun 23, 1999
    Boston, MA USA
  4. goussoccer

    goussoccer Member+

    May 23, 2001
    Avon, CT
    If you don't want to mock him, then don't call it bad coaching. While Rooney's fall from grace was dramatic, it was in direct relation to that fall that the Revs really started winning. Not saying Rooney was THE reason, but I think you would have to say that replacing him was one of the reasons we started to win.
     
  5. Rickster

    Rickster Member

    Dec 1, 1998
    Sorry but I don't agree about Cloutier vs. Rooney. Stevei Nix is all about positional play and movement off of the ball, neither of which are Rooney's strengths. Rooney has neither the wheels nor defensive mindset to be one of Nichols' worker bees, nor the talent to be one of his offensive go-to guys.
     
  6. glennmcdonald

    glennmcdonald Member

    Mar 18, 2000
    Cambridge, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    Estonia
    Surely if the Nicol era has taught us anything, it's that molding a group of players into a team is not done by making a series of independent, isolated player decisions. A player is measured by what happens to the team when you add them to it, and I think we've seen abundant evidence that Hernandez, Cullen, Cloutier and Pierce are all more effective midfield participants in Nicol's scheme than Rooney, just like we've seen that Harris is a much better fit at forward in it than Chacon, and even that Fuller is preferable to Chacon in some circumstances.
     
  7. Bresno

    Bresno New Member

    Jul 9, 2001
    Lynn
    Cloutier is much better than Rooney at this point and I personally feel it is great coaching. also not putting in Downing that poor excuse for a defender when we went to 10 men.
     
  8. futbol2ot

    futbol2ot Member

    May 15, 2001
    Massachusetts
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The best team is not necessarilly the best 11 individual players.
     
  9. soccertim

    soccertim Member

    Mar 29, 2001
    Mass
    How do you go from being team captain to being unloaded by your team and then have them talk about how they swindled the team that took you? I'm sure that Daniel Hernandez would like to know the answer to that one.

    Jim Rooney started the year playing well but he was getting steadily worse as the year went on. Cloutier looked terrific in his first few games before he was injured and is also much more versatile than Rooney. Again, the fact that the team has played much better since Nicol took Rooney out of the lineup tells you whether or not it was bad coaching.

    Should Nicol dump Adin Brown and play Jurgen Summer? He was a captain this year also.
     
  10. ProseLtd

    ProseLtd Member

    Jul 27, 1999
    Shrewsbury, MA USA
    Re: Re: Rooney???

    You could also bring back Teddy, he was co-captain when the season started!
     
  11. Popero

    Popero Member

    Jul 5, 2002
    CT
    Remember that corner he took in stoppage that one game when we were down by one?
     
  12. jmsullivan

    jmsullivan Member

    Sep 14, 2000
    Fairhaven Ma.
    Re: Re: Rooney???

     
  13. jmsullivan

    jmsullivan Member

    Sep 14, 2000
    Fairhaven Ma.
    NO???
     
  14. Rodan

    Rodan New Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Providence
    He nearly took out a ball boy - the ball never made it into play.

    Probably just a fluke, but it really seemed to exemplify the Revs faults and frustrations at that point (i.e., failure to focus and execute during important spells of the game...).
     
  15. Gregor

    Gregor New Member

    Jun 23, 1999
    Boston, MA USA
    .

    and it was also about 40 ft in the air if I remember correctly.
     
  16. MrSangster

    MrSangster Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Duxbury,MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly!

    And, Stevie Nicks has taken a less than stellar cast of MLS misfits and formed them into a defensive, stonewalling team. I thought that the key had been kante, but, in light of recent games with the injuries and red cards, it's the system. Unfortunately, some players are not destined to play in this system. I have never been big Heaps, Kamler or Cullen fans, but, all 3 have been awesome of late under this sytem.

    Rooney & APC are just 2 that come to mind that don't seem to "get it."
     
  17. jmsullivan

    jmsullivan Member

    Sep 14, 2000
    Fairhaven Ma.
    Must have been while I was in recovery. But I have a wide smile picturing it.
     

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