Rooney insults Hughes memory

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by kopiteinkc, Nov 17, 2004.

  1. kopiteinkc

    kopiteinkc Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 1, 2000
    Shawnee
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    After Wayne Rooney was substituted (to stop him getting sent off) according to soccernet:

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=168977&cc=5901

    First the S*n interview, then he leaves Everton for Man U, and now he disgraces the tribute to Emlyn Hughes (a Liverpool hero) by throwing the black armband on the floor.

    Words fail me.
     
  2. soccerphan

    soccerphan New Member

    Jun 25, 2004
    Philadelphia, USA
    I read about that on another website too. What a stupid kid!!! He obviously doesnt have enough respect for the game of soccer. A lot of athletes in the States are the same way......they have no clue how the game (whichever game they play) is bigger than they are and always will be
     
  3. SuperElf

    SuperElf Member

    Jul 16, 1999
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's a hothead. He's an idiot. He has no respect for those who came before him. He set a terrible example for kids who want to follow in his footsteps.

    Those four things said, he wasn't breaking any law, or assaulting anybody. He's lost the last iota of respect I had for him, but I don't consider these actions to be significantly more scornful than what we've come to expect from athletes these days.

    Edit: Actually, the more I think about it, the more pissed I get. Strike that last paragraph. I'll probably have something much nastier to say in the morning.
     
  4. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
    02116
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    His actions aren't a surprise. But they weren't the worst of the evening. The Spanish fans should be banned from all stadiums in Europe (including a 2 week ban for La Liga matches) for the rest of year because of their racist antics. This will quickly get the message out to all those who think it is acceptable.
     
  5. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    That's what happens when all your brains are in you boots and people keep telling you what you want to hear.

    "I'M GOD!!!"
     
  6. kopiteinkc

    kopiteinkc Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 1, 2000
    Shawnee
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I agree that the Spanish fans behaviour was despicable.

    As for Rooney after Euro 2004 he was an absolute hero in England, and now he completely disrespects a former England captain because he got subbed out early.

    What a spoilt inconsiderate brat.

    His next visits to Anfield and Goodison are gonna be horrendous.
     
  7. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Guys, the kid isn't 20 yet. I doubt it was an intentional act. He obviously isn't the most disciplined player out there, but I don't think this was meant with any disrespect.
     
  8. Malkamus

    Malkamus New Member

    Jan 24, 2002
    He is just a kid and they do dumb stuff. I did really really really dumb stuff when I was 19, I just happened to not be a big football star and so very few people know about it. However, he is not helping his case one bit. I like Rooney and I've seen him be just magical on the pitch for both club and country but he needs to gain some maturity and be a bit more humble.
     
  9. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    I don't think that he thinks that deeply either. Like I said "His brains are in his boots"
    But Kopite is right, he'll hear about it next time in Liverpool.

    So what did the Spanish do that hasn't been done before..?
     
  10. Quirky_Birky

    Quirky_Birky Member

    Wolverhampton Wanderers
    Sep 15, 2004
    The Peak District, England
    He also refused to shake hands with his replacement, Alan Smith, and apparently swore at the England management staff. I wouldn't put anything past him. Perhaps a stint in the U21s would do him good.

    For the record, Rooney won't be popular at Molineux either. Hughes is fondly remembered there too.
     
  11. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    He's 19 ...
     
  12. TruReds

    TruReds New Member

    Jun 12, 2004
    KL
    Legally adult.
     
  13. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Yeah, but biologically still a kid. Come on - how many people here can honestly say that they never - not ever - did anything thoughtless, rash or crass in an act of petulance or impetuousness when they were nineteen years old?

    Far be it from me to defend the ugly lummox, but if yesterday was anything, then it was a reminder that our latest great white hope is still just a kid and all English football fans would do well to bear that in mind.

    He failed a test of maturity and character. Again - name me a teenager that hasn't. In addition, name me a teenager that is exposed to that sort of pressure and scrutiny in the normal run of life (and before you say it, yes I know that with greater prominence comses greater responsibility, but that doesn't automatically make you not a hotheaded teenager).
     
  14. SuperElf

    SuperElf Member

    Jul 16, 1999
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And that was my kneejerk reaction. Boys will be boys.

    But the more I thought about it, how many nineteen year olds make a scene during minutes of silence? Or do something ignorant at a funeral? Being an ass around your mates or public drunkeness (or soliciting prostitution ;) ) is one thing, but reckless disregard for the recently deceased is slightly dumber.

    If he had thrown down the captain's armband and stomped all over it, it would be a totally different matter. The press would still be in a hissy, but it's par for the course to show disrespect to your country these days. Disrepecting those whose bodies haven't had time to get cold yet is a different level of stupidity. Maybe I'm too damn prudish and conservative . . .
     
  15. Matt Clark

    Matt Clark Member

    Dec 19, 1999
    Liverpool
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    I don't think that is a fair characterisation of what he did though. Remember, he was being hauled off the pitch (despite the half-time break being a scant 3 minutes distant) because he was literally about to explode. He lost his rag BUT clearly felt aggrieved (especially following his last tussle with the Spanish centre-back who went to ground like a complete woman after an entirely innocuous, blameless collision with Rooney) and therefore also clearly resented being dragged off.

    Now, he tugged at his armband, and dropped it on the floor. Not a wise thing to do, even in the heat of the moment, but equally not a conscious act of disrespect to Emlyn Hughes or Keith Weller. It's beyond unreasonable to presume that his first thought at that precise moment was "well, Hughes and Weller can fuck off for a start!".

    I really think this should not be blown up into something it is not.
     
  16. Russian Scouser

    Russian Scouser Red Card

    Nov 17, 2004
    that Lundun
    My Evertonian mates reckon he'll never play at Goodison.
     
  17. Russian Scouser

    Russian Scouser Red Card

    Nov 17, 2004
    that Lundun
    It probably wasn't but yet another demonstration of his dimness.
     
  18. Russian Scouser

    Russian Scouser Red Card

    Nov 17, 2004
    that Lundun
    The problem with Fathead is that his entourage are extremely keen to make money out of him and one of the few who actually seemed to give one about what would happen to him was Moyes and he treated Moyes like dirt.
    The small failures will add up if he carries on like this and when it reaches a crisis point, he'd have no one to turn to as I don;t actually believe anyone in the circus around him will care about what happens to him once the publicity turns nasty.
     
  19. kopiteinkc

    kopiteinkc Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 1, 2000
    Shawnee
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Answer: Michael Owen. During his teen years what trouble did he get into other than a little gambling?

    Matt, you're wrong on this one. Whether he intended to do it or not, he disrespected the dead, just as he did with his interview with the S*n.

    I thought it was a great gesture for England to recognize Hughes in this way at this match and he has the audacity to react this way.

    Fvck him.
     
  20. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Comparing Rooney to Owen isn't fair, as I don't think Owen ever had quite the media focus on him as Rooney does. Beckham really was the lightning rod for the media, as opposed to Rooney.
    Was Owen more mature? Yes. Does Rooney need to be more mature? Yes. Is it fair to tell him to fvck off because he forgot something in the heat of the moment in an international friendly at 19 years of age? Come on. I hope he apologizes for it (he should do that) and then we can find something else in English football to dissect to the subatomic level because the game itself isn't interesting enough at the moment.
     
  21. SuperElf

    SuperElf Member

    Jul 16, 1999
    Dallas, TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good idea. Maybe your lot should go purchase everyone in Serie A, just to spice things up a little. ;)
     
  22. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Good point - we haven't been linked with anyone big in a while.

    NEWSFLASH: The Sun has it on good sources that Liverpool's Steven Gerrard is set to move to England's new giants Chelsea in the January transfer window, citing a desire to win trophies.

    Discuss. :p :p :p
     
  23. Russian Scouser

    Russian Scouser Red Card

    Nov 17, 2004
    that Lundun
    "The Sun" - this bit of the story makes it b*llocks. :)
     
  24. bjb7223

    bjb7223 New Member

    May 29, 2004
    Florida
    that fat lilttle ginger twat. Someone should knock his teeth out.
     
  25. TruReds

    TruReds New Member

    Jun 12, 2004
    KL
    Tell me Owen wasn't the "Golden Boy" or "Wonder Kid" of football when he first broke into the international scene; when he mesmerise the world over with that dazzling goal against Argentina at WC98.

    Beckham was the centre of media's attention? Yes, for his good looks and marketabilities. But he shamed the nation during WC98 and the heart-broken English fans found solace in Owen who emerged as the new darling of English football. How old was Owen then? I believe he was 18 years old.
     

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