Ronaldinho admits fluke Ronaldinho has admitted that his wonder free-kick that eliminated England from the World Cup was unintended. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/2796957.stm
I think most people already knew this. Nobody could intentialy score a goal like that. Although it would of been better if he came out and said it was intentinal purely for the fact that i could say England went out of the world cup to one of the greatest goals ever.
Well, kind of a fluke... he was still shooting, just for the opposite corner according to that article.
Between the inadvertant placement of the shot, and the fact that Seaman was probably still smarting from that play in the first half where he nearly hit himself in the head with the heels of his own boots, I'd say there was a pretty fair element of flukiness to the goal whether Little Ronald 'fessed up or not. But that's the nature of the sport sometimes.
The obvious flukiness of that goal certainly didn't stop people from passionately claiming it was intentional. I remember those threads all too well.
according to juninho he did intend to lob seaman it is just that the ball ended up in the other angle. It was pretty obvious that he did aim straight at goal if you see the replay and were he was looking when he shot the ball. i had no idea though that he aimed for the left corner and not the right. but i agree with ombak that a fluke goal is a goal that was not intended to be in the first place. i would say it was a lucky goal rather than a fluke one. as lucky as englands goal in that match.
Most basketball shots are aimed for the middle of the basket, but how many clank off the rim and the backboard before they go in. I'd rather be lucky than good, but the harder I work, the luckier I am.
btw... the headline of bbc news is not correct. "ronaldinho has admitted that his wonder freekick which eliminated england was unintended" the freekick was indeed intended but it went into the wrong angle of the net, at least according to juninho... but what bugs me is that the english just can't admit that the goal england scored in that match was just as lucky...
Actually Ronaldhino was just trying to pass the ball to Seaman in the spirit of sportsmanship, since it wasn't really a foul. He never dreamed that Seaman would bottle it like that...
Really a stupid claim. Obviously Ronaldinho went for the goal. Who was he going to pass to over there? He was going for the near post which was farther from Seaman's reach. Instead it goes nearly straight to Seaman and makes him look like a fool. Bottom line: if Ronaldinho had aimed to that spot he would have been a fool. Seaman should have got that ball and didn't.
This argument reminds me of last week's Roma vs Valencia (I know, in a lesser extent) Carew swears he tried to score, to me it was a cross!
Questions. 1 how can you lob someone at the near post? (unless they are further forward than the near post) 2 how does capitalising on poor defending 20 yards out become the luck "equal" of mis-hitting a shot in such a way that it becomes a perfect 30 yard lob into the top corner?
listen buddy. england was outplayed in that match. england lost to a better team. even with 11 against 10 england did nothing. replay that game with the same players at the same hour 10 times and england would still lose all 10 games accept it.
And what does that have to do with the goal? The whole thing's semantics but the argument is whether or not the goal was a fluke or not. I don't think anyone's tried to advance the notion that England wasn't beaten in that game. There was plenty of wailing and gnashing of teeth at the time about England's performance.
oh lord, you gotta be kidding me! So you are saying becuase the defender spilled the ball right to Owen and Owen schooled him and the goalie that Owen was lucky? Ha! Thats the same thing as saying Brazil was lucky to get the equalizer because Beckham could have just kicked the ball out before the play started instead of getting fancy. Geez... Not necessarily, England were down about the fluke goal but on another day it could have been anyones game. Thats just ignorant to say something like that.
no it couldn't cause england is not a good team... you were one man up (thanks to the ref) and you couldn't even take the ball from the brazilians. it was pathetic to watch but funny at the same time. i read an interview with kieron dyer were he admitted that brazil and england are in different leagues. england is a crappy and talentless team. period.
According to the article, Ronaldinho intentially tried to score a goal liked that. He did not say that he did not try to shoot it. He only said that Ronaldinho's aim was bad. It was obvious that he was going for the goal. Just look at the way he ran toward the ball and the way he kicked it..... if he was crossing the ball, then I am a better player than Ronaldinho. My first reaction before he even touched the ball was..... jez, this guy is trying to score.... what a waste of shoot!!!!
As someone completely impartial, Ronaldo's first goal in the final was "luckier" than Owen's against Brazil. And Van Nistelrooy's goal yesterday was "luckier" than the both of them.
...and you reason for you intense irrational dislike of England is based on what exactly? England played badly and gave up for reasons only the players know. That isn't being denied by anyone, nor is that Brazil are better, but you seem to be overcome with some burden that means you must go out of your way to prove that England are terrible. So tell me one thing. If Brazil were so far superior to England in that match, why did they need a fluke goal to win? Surely a great team like Brazil could have crashed 4 or 5 past the dreadful England team. Take your time composing your reply. It'll be hours before I log on again. Pub beckons. Hey, how much does beer cost in Sweden by the way?
I think our good friend Vico also seems to forget that right up until Brazil scored at the end of the first half England were the better side. It was England who were dictating the play and it was England who were looking more dangerous.
wishful thinking... please read the interview with kieron dyer in GOAL magazine... the english players have accepted the fact why can't the fans do the same? england sucks... it was pathetic to see 10 man brazil easily passing the ball between them to let the time pass while the 11 english players were running furiously in circles trying to catch it.