Looks like the Hispanic media weren't the only ones questioning Colin's hire as the new coach: http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansa...gsoccer.com&KRD_RM=0hmjgkhkoipggggggggggghohg|Karl|N
SO WHAT?? Elliot is the GM. He can hire who ever he wants to. LIVE WITH IT....I am soo sick of all this bithching here.Give the guy a chance and let him prove what he can do ALL ALL ALL head coaches were assistants at one time. Most of you guys don't know Collin Clark from dudely squat..If he is so bad how come the major players on this team think he is a good coach, and are very happy to play for him..He is hired..........Let him build a new Dallas Burn team.....He WILL do a good job. Can't we just look forward to the future instead of crying about the past. We are going back to the Cotton Bowl for GOD's sake. Be happy. See what happens..And stop whining..........Geez......
Mods Ummmm....first of all, Alex just posted a link - he provided no "whining" in his post. Newman on the other hand - well what do you expect from a former Wiz waterbaby who whines about everything? Second of all, I agree with the overall sentiment of being tired of whining, whinging, the gnashing of teeth and posting of doom and gloom in every frickin' thread. Third - this is for Gringoita, What part of "make posts only to your official thread" are you failing to understand? Take your racist remarks ("I am buying shiit till I see my kind there") back to the cellar. The TOS (Terms of Service) are clear: NO racist remarks
Colin cancer Dear burn 02 and Burn 2002, I think that your cheerleading skirts are far too tight. They are obviously cutting off the circulation to your brains wherever they are. Put your pom-poms down for a minute and think. (you see Asflag, it is nothing personal). Everyday, people in the soccer business are independently starting to agree with me. I, as a fan have the guts to come out and tell you why this is a stupid hire from day 1 of his tenure. In fact, 30 days before day 1. I think that I have backed my opinion with reasonable projections based on the facts. Anyone can come out after the fact like a big chicken sh%%t. I criticized the Jefferies hire prior to the hire. In my minds eye, I am one of the few who should have had a right to criticize the Jefferies hire. Furthermore, I know that both of you will be banging on the door of the bandwagon miles after the train has derailed. By then it will be too late. I'm sorry, but who the hell cares what the players think? We basically have an expansion team quality roster. Guys are politicking to keep jobs. You do make one great point. It is Elliot's decision. Albeit on in which he has proven himself an absolute incompetent from his first meaningful personnel decision. So ultimate blame lies with HSG for hiring Elliot. But, I don't need to be the one to tell them. The ultimate accountability ledger will be kept on Mr. Hunt's checkbook when he has to sign one hellacious sized check to cover this year's losses. Let's see if you two still think that it is none of our business to give opinions when old man Lamar cannot afford the red ink and moves this team.
Theo, as I hav ewritten before, I was on Jeffries well before most of the fans were. Since you were not posting at the time, I have no idea if it was you or I suggesting he was not the man to take the team to glory. Like you, I never thought he would be a better coach than Big Dave. At this point, I doubt than anyone would disagree with us. Unlike you, I never thought that the problem with the Burn coaching staff went any lower than Jeffries. I thought that Colin and Haynesie were excellent assistants, and I bleive that Colin will be an excellent head coach. Reasonable men can disagree, but we can agaree that he will be better than Jeffires. It cannot get any worse. Beyond that, one of the things that the Burn needed last year was some discipline and direction, things that Jeffries did not bring, but Colin will. Vide Bobby's statement. That is exactly what the Burn needs, and now they have it. Even so, I do not beleive the Burn will do well next year, but this is due to a fundemental talent gap, not the coaching.
Scip, we do agree on so much. And yes, Collin is better than Jefferies, because as you have insinuated Jefferies seemed to be all but vandalising the roster on his way out. However, Collin IS part of the old regime. A "right hand" to quote Jefferies. I don't have anything against Collin personally. However, I am not impressed by his resume for coaching this team. I do not see the previous successful experience teaching/coaching at a Juniors program. I do not see successful major professional head coaching experience. In fact, his highest profile job in coaching was assisting Jefferies. Where is his semi-current international coaching experience? Played an eternity ago, has been a US coach for semi-pro teams, took those little goofy USSF courses to get his mickey mouse coaching diploma. That doesn't do it for me. Sorry. For fun, let's assume though, that he has a black magic book of coaching that he failed to produce the previous year. But this book will guarantee him all the right moves this year. Let's assume for fun, that the roster is magically converted into a youthful and talented squad. The folks that live around the Fair Park area are still not going to support the type of soccer that Collin will bring. Attendance would have been better if the Burn had stayed at some out of the way suburban site.The Hispanics are not going to waste money and time on the type of soccer that Collin will bring to the cavernous Cotton Bowl. This is the main reason why I feel that the Burn screwed up with this hire. And regardless of how many games the Burn win next year, I doubt that the numbers will justify sustaining this franchise at the close of next season. I strongly believe that a better hire would have made this a truly magical year for us. However, our guys decided to go on the cheap again.
What I meant by my post was simply that I'm sick of all the b!tching and crying. I hope Clark will be better than Jeffries, but frankly I don't have the crystal ball that some Burn "fans" (and I use that word VERY loosely, Theo) seem to have when it comes to picking coaches. Like all Burn fans I'm happy 2003 is over and am looking forward to 2004. Do I think we'll win the MLS Cup or the Supporter's Shield? I don't really know yet, I think it's too premature to make those predictions. I for one care about what the players think...if they don't like or more importantly, respect the coach, they simply won't perform at their best. Look at San Jose; over and over again the players have nothing but positive things to say about Yallop. They may not all be the best players in the league, but they have a good relationship with the coach, that goes a long way on the field. Do you think any of them ever tried to break Yallop's leg in practice? (see 3rd Degree website) The Burn fans have the potential of being a bigger laughingstock than the 2003 team was if we don't cut this racial/crybaby/chicken little crap out. Let's see who's on the field in the spring and at least wait until the end of the first game before we write off the entire season.
Burn 2002, you are the same one that was an ademant cheerleeder for Southlake weren't you? Same kind of rhetoric back then as today. If you would only ever slightly vary away every once in a while from the hardcore cheerleading, I think you would be taken a little more seriously. .... or perhaps you work at the Burn office .... are you Chris Ward?
wow. Everyone needs to get the chips off their shoulders. The point of the article is that there is an inherent problem with giving an assistant the job when the head coach fails. Without getting into name calling, I completely agree with this philosophy. We should have gotten a coach outside of the system. And everyone of you is a more loyal fan than I. However, those that agree with me on this issue are correct. But the decision has been made. So I am going to deal with it from here on out. I am a lawyer. When the client makes a bad decision, you look at him, and tell him you think it was a mistake, and you are pissed the rest of the day. And the next day you wake up, and you deal with that hand that is dealt you.
How many head coaches in any sport were NOT assitant coaches first?? And NO I'm not Ward. Maybe I am a chearleader a little, but it's sure better than bitching ALL the friggin time like you Theadore. I don't think you know what you are talking about much. My whole point it.... Collin is coach. He hasn't had a chance to coach this team yet. And if the players think he is a good coach then they will play better for him won't they?? They sure didn't play for Jeffries. I can't wait to hear you guys when they start winning. What will you say then?? I'll be seeing you all at the Cotton Bowl the won't I?
I would say great. But that is then. Now I wanted to start fresh. And as to seeing people at the Cotton Bowl, I will be there, bregrudging no one their opinions.
My problem with Collin Clarke (sp?), is that I can't think of anything he could've been in charge of last year that had a positive impact on the club. Did he work with the young players? Because in 2003, I was once again disappointed with thier progress. Did he give the halftime talk? Because I think our record shows that the team was never too inspired this season. Did he scout the opposition? Again, the record suggests we received no benefit from preparation. Did he organize the defense? The offense? The set plays? Did he bring talent to the organization? I've read that he's said he can't take credit for signing ROB. I think someone here (probably 3rd Degree) has said that Jeffries was the one high on Davis. So he didn't bring in either of the two youngsters who still show some promise. Basically, I can't think of any positive characteristic the Burn had or displayed in 2003 - at all - so either Clarke did nothing for the club while he was Jeffries' assistant, or whatever he did do, was also deficient. I hope I'm wrong. alansl
Trying to evaluate whether Clarke's hire was good or bad is premature. Let's see after the 10th game of 2004. I thought I read in Clarke's bio that he was the head coach of two reasonably successful A-League teams before he became an MLS assistant. But then both Jefferies and Dir were head coaches in the A-League before becoming MLS coaches, so I guess that may not be a valid predictor of future MLS performance. The bottom line for 2004: A. What player improvements can be made over 2003. B. Can the coach get them to play together as a team, first defensively and then offensively. I've already payed for my season tickets for 2004. I guess we'll know by the 10th game of the season if Clarke's hire, and Elliott's, were good moves.
I will judge based on if the team fights or gives up. It will take some times for wins to come consistantly. Colin will have to close the talent gap, and he will not get much help from the MLS, major allocations or not.