Roldan and are you watching the game? 2021 Thread bump

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by 50/50 Ball, Dec 20, 2021.

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  1. tomásbernal

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    #276 tomásbernal, Feb 19, 2026
    That's a good assessment. Looking forward to March camp.
     
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  2. superdave

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    #277 superdave, Feb 23, 2026
  3. 50/50 Ball

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    #278 50/50 Ball, Feb 23, 2026
    It’s telling that they still think he’s underrated. The guy has captained the All-Star team and been best XI. I can see where they’re coming from, it’s taken a lot of Sounders fans a while to understand he’s the main man. Part of that is he was never hurt until 2022, so they didn’t get the A/B test.
     
  4. gogorath

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    #279 gogorath, Feb 23, 2026
    I don't doubt a bit of that is relative to USMNT discussion.

    There's also the comment in the article -- at least one CSO thinks that he's irreplaceable to Seattle.
     
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  5. 50/50 Ball

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    #280 50/50 Ball, Feb 23, 2026
    The only time Seattle ever missed the playoffs was the year he got hurt. He’d basically played every minute for them since Schmetzer took over besides Gold Cup absences.

    He was human superglue, filling in cracks for years.
     
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  6. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
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    #281 Rahbiefowlah, Mar 28, 2026
    Tell me again how I’m not watching Roldan correctly.
     
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  7. FC Tallavana

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    #282 FC Tallavana, Mar 28, 2026
    We’re going to need a vibes guy when we give up five goals per match.
     
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  8. diablodelsol

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    #283 diablodelsol, Mar 28, 2026
    Quality thread bump. Well played.
     
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  9. sXeWesley

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    #284 sXeWesley, Mar 28, 2026
    He played better than Berhalter at least…
     
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  10. gogorath

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    #285 gogorath, Mar 28, 2026
    I think he was better than Johnny as well. Not sure that Roldan is the guy to be calling out in this match.
     
  11. Dean Forest

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    Mar 6, 2026
    #286 Dean Forest, Mar 28, 2026
    It's so bizarre. I don't think he was involved in anything at all. So to blame him (or credit him for that matter is insane. It's proof that there's an insatiable desire to pile on specific players.
     
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  12. Rahbiefowlah

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    #287 Rahbiefowlah, Mar 28, 2026
    I agree he was completely uninvolved in anything at all.
     
  13. Ghost

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    #288 Ghost, Mar 28, 2026
    Negative 3 plus-minus.
     
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  14. Rahbiefowlah

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    #289 Rahbiefowlah, Mar 28, 2026
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  15. Mt Stone@

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    #290 Mt Stone@, Mar 28, 2026
    lol
     
  16. Rahbiefowlah

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    #291 Rahbiefowlah, Mar 28, 2026
     
  17. Rahbiefowlah

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    #292 Rahbiefowlah, Mar 28, 2026
    To be fair I’m not saying Roldan didn’t play well enough… I’m just saying he isn’t good enough.

    At least not good enough to play well against a team like Belgium.
     
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  18. nbarbour

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    #293 nbarbour, Mar 28, 2026
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    The drop-off between Cardoso and Roldan was steeeeeeeeep.
     
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  19. superdave

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    #294 superdave, Mar 28, 2026
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  20. Yowza

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    #295 Yowza, Mar 28, 2026
    I thought the first half they lacked sharpness but we’re creating chances. They had some giveaways but retreated to cover.
    The second half when they would have good spells and eventually give it away, the recovery didn’t come.

    It was good to see Pulisic have success taking on multiple players on the dribble. His passing and end product were dusty af. I’m not worried about him at the WC if he’s healthy.

    Jedi was good. McKennie gets the goal, he and Tillman were fine in possession and in the press.

    I thought Ream had a rough match defending his box. Caught in between without effect. The team does seem to depend on him crucially in the build, so it’s a conundrum.

    Attacking subs were decent, the rest not so much.
     
  21. Mt Stone@

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    #296 Mt Stone@, Mar 28, 2026
    People have been say this FOREVER, but they're all just haters, am I right.
     
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  22. nbarbour

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    #297 nbarbour, Mar 28, 2026
    I generally don’t like friendlies when judging players. Too many variables with different opponents, different lineups, etc.

    But tonight provided a very interesting A/B test. Same opponent, same teammates, same night. Roldan was so far behind Cardoso, it’s ridiculous. And it wasn’t just a touch here or a play there. There’s just night and day between the quality of the two. It’s not remotely close.
     
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  23. superdave

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    #298 superdave, Mar 29, 2026
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  24. metnostar

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    #299 metnostar, Mar 29, 2026
    Cardoso is not an obvious player. He doesn’t go to the ground much, or foul crudely, but his positioning is great, and he is constantly breaking up plays or poking a ball away from a dangerous situation. In his club play, he has also been a sporadic offensive threat, good for a few goals and assists every season.
    These are the reasons that he’s starting for Atletico Madrid
     
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  25. Dean Forest

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    #300 Dean Forest, Mar 29, 2026
    Cardoso has never had a single second of good play in a USMNT shirt. But people want him to be good so they invent narratives like they did yesterday.

    "Well, we gave up 4 goals after he was subbed out so therefore, he must be really good."

    And people hate MLSers so they give no quarter to those players and even blame them when they had nothing to do with anything at all.
     
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