Robles to MLS

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by superkeeper, Aug 7, 2012.

  1. superkeeper

    superkeeper Member

    Jul 9, 2003
    USA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Luis Robles just signed a contract with MLS and is being put through the allocation process. We can either take him and keep or trade him or pass on him hoping someone else comes along. I would hate to see us going with the third option. We either need to take him to replace Matt Reis or get something for the spot. Reis is on the backside of his career and I wouldn't hate going for a young replacement and Robles is falling in our lap. What thinks the rest of Revs land.
     
  2. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    The chances of another playing coming through the allocation process this year are slim to none, so I certainly hope we either pick him or trade our spot in the order.

    I personally would prefer to take him. He's only 28 and we have plenty of cap space, why not give this guy a shot?
     
  3. Soccer Doc

    Soccer Doc Member+

    Nov 30, 2001
    Keene, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd take him.
    We are rebuilding for the future and we will need a lot better Keeper that our current back up. Unless---(1) they KNOW there is something better in the returning player pipeline and (2) they feel there is a Keeper coming out this year thay can get in the draft/
     
  4. cml1394

    cml1394 Member

    Apr 5, 2010
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Absolutely take him, we've been talking about drafting Reis' successor but this is much more of a sure thing. Assuming his contract isn't crazy big, and another team is so desperate for a keeper they give us a great offer, no reason not to use our top spot on him. Not a big name like we might have hoped for, but there's a good chance we'll get nothing if we bank on someone else coming back.

    Now, if Burns is lining up another signing or two that would prevent us from getting Robles (I know, LOL), I wouldn't mind trading him to someone who wants him for allocation or whatever.
     
  5. SethMan31

    SethMan31 Member

    Aug 11, 2007
    This would be a good grab for the Revs. Bobby and Tim are not the future. Bobby has a terrible goals against average and his praise comes from his ability to grab corner kicks. I don't know much about Tim Murray but I'm assuming that means he's nothing to note.

    If we trade our spot away then it best be for a ready-to-go defender. I would love someone like Heath Pearce
     
  6. 6and33areGOD

    6and33areGOD Member

    Jun 19, 2011
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Seems like you have to take him. A bit of a let down after hoping that one of the Rangers 3 would be coming back, but keeper's going to become a position of need within a year, and no point risking that the pick is wasted. Unless Burns can swing trading for starting-level backline help, it's best to grab him and keep him.

    With that said, I know absolutely nothing bout the guy, anyone who follows German soccer able to give a quick rundown of strengths/weaknesses?
     
  7. huskydeac

    huskydeac Member+

    Mar 31, 2009
    Absolutely sign him assuming his salary is under $200k. There's no rumors of any other returning players. If you get a great trade offer, ok, otherwise hold onto him and reevaluate in the offseason.
     
  8. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    You absolutely have to take him. Could be *the* answer at the position for many years to come.

    We aren't making the playoffs this year, anyway--bring him in and have some real competition at keeper. If he works out well, this is a huge relief for the team.

    Remember--we keep talking about RSL-style "core" players for the next 5-7 years, and the keeper position is crucial in that core. This is a no-brainer.....
     
  9. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems like a no-brainer. Either sign him or trade him.

     
  10. Voodoo United

    Voodoo United Member

    Jan 7, 2008
    Easton, Ma
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the Revs should take him and keep him. This season is pretty much hopeless but Robles could be the answer to Reis' replacement within a year or two. But the way this team has been with their decision making I have little hope they do the right thing.
     
  11. Demolition Man

    Nov 5, 2009
    Twin Cities, MN
    Club:
    NSC Minnesota Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sign the beast! As much as I like and respect Reis its time to start looking to the future. I feel that future right now is with Robles.... well at least from that Youtube video posted above that is.
     
  12. REV IT UP

    REV IT UP Member

    New England Revolution
    United States
    Jul 12, 2004
    San Francisco
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I still find this whole Allocation order thing to be the most ridiculous rule in MLS, but hey we keep finding ways to suck, so we keep finding our way on top. Take him, run him against Reis and Bobby, and trade one of them away in the off season.

    There is a very slim chance there is anyone else coming in, and in a few months, we'll find ourselves at the #1 spot again...
     
  13. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Huge questions about Shuttleworth, Reis being over the hill, Robles entering the prime years for a keeper.....Revs will pass
     
  15. CenterForward

    CenterForward Member

    Feb 21, 2011
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree that the Revs should just take him (be it keep him or trade him) since there is a low likelihood of any other yanks returning. But does anyone know anything about this guy? Is he any good? Would he be an upgrade over Reis of today?
     
  16. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This would set us up for the future at the keeper position for a long time. Yes, take him. Unless you get some amazing trade package, no way you can say no to this.
     
  17. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    This makes too much sense.
     
  18. mdelli

    mdelli Member

    Oct 10, 2002
    Seattle
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    I'd like to know what his cap number is...but I think we should take him.
     
  19. ProfZodiac

    ProfZodiac Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't like it, but I think we have to do it.

    I don't like the idea of (potentially) pissing off the last connection we have to the "glory years" and running him out of town as soon as the offseason arrives. I'm not Reis' biggest fan anymore, but I think he's still got another year or two in him if he wants it. Robles doesn't need a mentor and won't languish that long on the bench waiting for his turn. And Reis has zero trade value.

    If'n I had my druthers, I'd talk to Reis and find out whether he wants to keep playing beyond 2012. If the answer is "yes, for one year", take Robles, trade Shuttleworth for a pick, and play both Reis and Robles until one asserts himself. If the answer is "yes, for more than one year", take Robles and sell him to the highest bidder. If the answer is "no, this is it for me", take Robles, tell him the starting gig is his next year, and keep Bobby as the perpetual second fiddle.

    EDIT: What scares me is the idea that this is what the FO was gearing up for by cutting Moreno and Lozano and trading Shalrie. Robles isn't worth that.
     
  20. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    I'd love to hear someone say that Robles is a great keeper or at least one with high potential. And, if I did, I'd love to join the chorus of people saying we should take him (there's enough of a potential upgrade there).

    But, if we don't know how good he is, why is everyone saying "take him"?
     
  21. Mike Marshall

    Mike Marshall Member+

    Feb 16, 2000
    Woburn, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because something is usually better than nothing. A bird in hand is worth two in the bush?

    If we don't take Robles, who do we use that top allocation ranking on?

    I mean, if the Revs are reasonably sure that someone better is coming along, then fine. But if you pass on Robles, you'd better be pretty dang sure that someone better actually does come along.
     
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  22. SethMan31

    SethMan31 Member

    Aug 11, 2007
    This scares me too. Part of me thought the the cutting of Moreno and trading of Shalrie meant that our Front Office knew someone big was coming back. Foolish of me to be so optimistic
     
  23. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Exactly. It's the same thing we've been saying all along with weighted lotteries and the allocation order. You need to participate in order to win. If Robles doesn't show well in practice over the rest of the season we can trade him for a second round draft pick before the start of the 2013 season. We are in no position to be choosy over these types of free players. Give the guy a chance, what's the worst that could happen?
     
  24. G-boot

    G-boot Member

    Manchester United
    Nov 6, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    in america, land of the goalkeeper, the gk position is a waste of allocation.
     
  25. Crooked

    Crooked Member+

    May 1, 2005
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    The allocation will be a waste if we pass on Robles and it goes unused.
     

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