Rob and Ty Horrible Announcers

Discussion in 'Business and Media' started by bigfranz, Nov 17, 2002.

  1. bigfranz

    bigfranz New Member

    Jul 18, 2000
    philly
    Why is it , that we keep getting crap announcers. Rob Stone has no clue, Rob its International Football. Stone makes it like a High School outing where you use lingo to spice it up. As for Ty he is just an idiot. During the game, they tried to out talk each other. Chatter, chatter , about silly stuff that had no part in the game. Who hires these announcers, they should be fired. I never thought I would say this , Jack was better than Stone. Jack was horrible , so you can see what I thought of today. Why dont announcers like Jp Dellacamera, Mike Hill, or Derek Rae get a shot at this job. They could not be any worse, anything would be an improvment.
     
  2. BerwynBlazers

    BerwynBlazers Member

    Jul 23, 2001
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i thought ty got fired?
     
  3. Lithium858

    Lithium858 Member

    Aug 11, 2002
    Baton Rouge
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    i dont like jp's style for some reason. he's too boring.
     
  4. sljohn

    sljohn Member

    Apr 28, 2001
    Out of town
    I thought this was one of the worst performances yet by Rob and Ty. In the past I have been just fine with them: Rob was good in-studio for WC and Ty is consistently decent (or better) in commentary.

    Tonight, though, it was a disaster. There was almost no play-by-play and most of the time they were talking about something other than the action on the field.

    The announcers are supposed to augment and amplify what is happening during a sporting event, not compete with it for the viewers attention!
     
  5. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    I think Stoner is great.
     
  6. JohnnyRev

    JohnnyRev Member

    Feb 23, 2001
    Boston, MA
    They wouldn't shut up. I turned the sound off after 25 minutes.
     
  7. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    People keep saying this, but when do announcers ever shut up? Were you hoping for more pregnant pauses?
     
  8. sljohn

    sljohn Member

    Apr 28, 2001
    Out of town
    I was hoping for more discussion of the game being played today, the one they were watching live and I was watching on TV, not stories about games gone by.
     
  9. bigfranz

    bigfranz New Member

    Jul 18, 2000
    philly

    What makes him great. Do you really think he has a knowledge of the game outside the US. Or do you like his calls that have nothing to do with soccer . When someone says 2 love thats a tennis term. What would happen if tennis announcers started saying Goal instead of points. They would be run out of the TV business, why then is it OK to do it with soccer.
     
  10. PSUdude

    PSUdude New Member

    Dec 15, 1998
    Elmhurst, Queens, NY
    watch an EPL Match (with their anouncing, not FSWs), that's how the game is supposed to be announced
     
  11. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    One guy talking to himself and trying to think of things to say and often repeating himself? No thanks. Besides, it's not like those announcers ever shut up either.
     
  12. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bring back Jack!!!!!!!!!
     
  13. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Who cares if he isn't like other announcers? I like him because he's American and has his own style of announcing. I think he does decent pbp and mixes in enough joking, etc. to not make it too dull. Mainly, I like him because he doesn't take himself too seriously -- (like getting upset about saying "2 love"). Jack might still have a job if he weren't so darn earnest about the whole thing.
     
  14. JohnFree5

    JohnFree5 New Member

    May 4, 2002
    Southern Maryland
    Like Ian Crocker and Martin Tyler doing English games. I think one person in the booth works better in soccer than anything else.
     
  15. WarrenWallace

    WarrenWallace Member+

    Mar 12, 1999
    Beer and Cheese
    I don't mind them at all. When you listen to other sports on TV, they don't only talk about their particular game or even sport. Rob has a good background. I like him when he does college football on Saturdays. So he is not Euro enough for you. He is an American talking soccer. Be pleased that the game is on and you are able to critisize his performance.
     
  16. tcmahoney

    tcmahoney New Member

    Feb 14, 1999
    Metronatural
    Actually, it was Jack Edwards who was dropped from the telecasts. Once Alexi Lalas -- or maybe someone else in his generation -- finally decides to hang up the cleats for good, I'm sure Ty will be declared surplus to requirements.
     
  17. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Seattle Sounders
    United States
    Nov 30, 1998
    on the run from the covid
    Club:
    Seattle
    I don't care about the terminology they use (2 nil, 2 love, whatever) but when you talk for no other reason than to make noise, and not because you have anything interesting to say, then there's a problem. Rob and Ty are no worse than other US announcers in this regard but that's a pretty dreadful standard to use. At least they don't butcher the language too badly that I've noticed. Interestingly I grew up listening to Cincinnati Reds radio broadcasts almost daily during baseball season and they didn't talk half has much much as most TV announcers. And they were (are) extremely popular. Deservedly so. I guess they didn't have some producer in their ear saying "For God's sake say something!!!" everytime there was 5 seconds of silence. And Rob's verbal ejaculations as the ball gets close to the goal just wreak of "I spent all last night thinking of cool (but mostly just stupid) things to say if it looks like there might be a goal and I can't wait to say them". Though I didn't notice those episodes so much with today's broadcast as with others he's done.

    What pissed me off in this match was the stupid distracting in-game interviews. When I saw Tim Howard's head I thought, he better have something really important to say, like he just signed a contract with Real Madrid, or don't interrupt the game! It seems a common, and as far as I've ever noticed uniquely American, mind set with sports broadcasts - the game itself is never entertaining enough, we have to fill it with as many diversions as possible.

    I think my favorite announcer was a guy I heard on a Croatian broadcast during Euro 2000 who spoke with a deep, Croatian James Earl Jones voice and basically just said the name of each player as they received the ball and "Goal!!!", "foul", "corner" or whatever. I knew what was going on and wasn't unnecessarily distraced.
     
  18. PumaJohnny

    PumaJohnny Member

    Nov 30, 2001
    Draper
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't think they were too bad, but with so many new players they had a lot of chance to give more background info. That kind of stuff is interesting, and it helps you get to know the guys getting their first caps better.
     
  19. copaantl98

    copaantl98 Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    JP is good. But Jack, Ty, and Rob all rule. It's certinaly better than listening to the sleep Premier League announcers.
     
  20. BennyDee19

    BennyDee19 New Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    Ohio
    I think the commentary as usual sucked!!! Stone tried to be too cool, and Ty was boring. I was amzed they didnt bring up ty's dad though, that was a positive.

    -PB20
     
  21. copaantl98

    copaantl98 Member

    Apr 9, 2002
    I love Rob's comment about how the Salvadorian player couldn't trap.
     
  22. BennyDee19

    BennyDee19 New Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    Ohio
    The should have hired Dwight Burgess when they had the chance!!! He would have been much better....He knows the game and he is colorful, would have been good!!!

    -PB20
     
  23. Shabs

    Shabs Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    NYC
    The reason why "other american sports on tv" get so much non-game specific chatter is because of two reasons-
    1-the game is so slow, its easy to do play by play AND go off on huge tangents. (baseball, football)
    2-The camera is close enough where you can usually make out who doing what in the game (b-ball, hockey)

    And with hockey, they usually detail whos doing what anyway.

    With soccer, the camera is so far off the field that often its difficult to distinguish one player from another. Make it a NAT game, where you have a bunch of players youre not used to seeing also, and Ill be the first to admit I had no clue at times who had the ball. If they had a radio broadcast of the game, I wouldve tuned into that and turned the tv sound off.
     
  24. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When did they have the chance? Was Dwight ready to give up his other pursuits? Did he actually throw his hat in the ring and get rejected?

    It's easy to throw names out there without looking at what kind of committment it would take. I have no problem with Dwight. Hell, I usually have no problem with Rob. I was at the game and have yet to watch my tape so can't judge this time.

    Just remember how giddy many people were here when Jack got the job. Anyone who announces for ESPN/ABC regularly will be slaughtered on these boards within a few months.
     
  25. CrewToon

    CrewToon Member

    Jun 13, 1999
    Greenbrier Farm
    I knew someone would say this.
     

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