Just wondered if people could help me out.Just wanted to know about some of the rivalries in the german league. As i lived near Gladbach for 3 years i have a soft spot for Borussia. I know that Borussia have a big rivalry with Koln but i thought they would have had a rivalry with Fortuna Dusseldorf as it was nearer.Also know of the Dortmund v Schalke rivalry but thats about it.If you can help danke!
If you just go for Bundesliga: Dortmund vs Schalke is the biggest rivalry of them all; traditional due to neighbourhood. Dortmund vs Bayern is rather new since Dortmund can challenge Bayern. Dortmund vs Leverkusen is not especially hot among the fans, but the players can't stand another; were always hot games in the past with some special incidents. Hamburg vs Bayern is old from the early 80s, but isn't that big anymore. Hamburg vs Bremen as they are the two northern clubs. Bremen vs Bayern still is pretty big although Bremen is not at the top since ten years anymore. Berlin vs Rostock has some rivalry I think. Berlin vs Cottbus is pretty big. Schalke vs Bayern is another hate game. Wolfsburg vs Hannover due to neighbourhood. 1860 vs Bayern for obvious reasons Kaiserslautern vs Bayern is traditional. Kaiserslautern vs Leverkusen due to some incidents in the past, rather from Lautern's side though (the rivalry, not the incidents). Bochum vs Bielefeld - I can't explain that as both are relatively far away, but it's existing pretty much. Nuremberg vs Bayern - Franconia (region around Nuremberg) is a region in Bavaria that doesn't really love to belong to this state...
Not really, even Hannover - Bremen is more of a rivalry. Maybe the Wolfsburg fans hate us cause we are the big capital of Lower Saxony and don't take them really serious but we don't really care, there are so few VFL fans! Hannover - Braunschweig(keller also mentioned Düsseldorf so I assume this is not only about the Bundesliga?) is one of the biggest rivalries in Germany. There is a real hatred between fans of 96 and Cottbus ever since we played each other in the Regionalliga finals where their fans behaved like nazis and among other things threw bananas at Hannover's hero Gerald Asamoah. And this was not only some fans it was the whole "Stadion der Freundschaft ". I think one of the biggest rivalry which unfortunately turns violent very often is Eintracht Frankfurt - Kickers Offenbach
yes ive heard offenbach has abit of a bad reputation for crowd trouble along with schalke and mannheim
Well, the Frankfurt fans are not really innocent in this matter, they are certainly a very notorious group of fans right now in German football along with Mannheim, you're right about that. Schalke has changed alot the last years, they're not much of a problem anymore.
id love to get back over to germany for a game its been awhile! Gladbach v Koln games were always fun!
Cologne - Leverkusen is a big rivalry, too. It's the left side vs the right side of the Rhine river, but hopefully it won't take place next season since Cologne is already promoted ! In Hamburg, St. Pauli - HSV is the biggest derby and rivalry, of course.. This derby may take place in D3 next season when St. Pauli has to play our amateur team....
You're going for the violence of the fans? If yes, then you got to see that Bundesliga soccer isn't as violent as it used to be in the 80s. The stadiums are more modern and the security standard is much higher. The violence really moved to the amateur leagues where it is much easier for the fans to make trouble. My 'top 3' are the fans of Essen, Frankfurt and Magdeburg - wherever these three clubs there are many police officers necessary. Magdeburg has a very notorious skinhead scene. Essen's supporters almost destroyed the stadium in Münster last year after they failed to promote in the last game.
If it´s not only about Bundesliga: (I favor the teams I post first) F.C. Hansa Rostock-St.Pauli (it was really bad in the early 90s, but due to the fact that the Rostock-scene fortunately changed alot and St.Pauli isn´t really a challenge for us anymore, it´s not as bad as it used to be) Kickers Offenbach-Darmstadt 98 Karlsruher SC-VfB Stuttgart FC Kaiserslautern-SVW Mannheim Sachsen Leipzig-VfB Leipzig Dresdner SC-Dynamo Dresden Union Berlin-BFC Dynamo HSV-St.Pauli 1.FC Nürnberg-Greuther Fürth Eintracht Braunschweig- HSV 96 Preussen Münster-Rot-Weiss Essen Carl-Zeiss Jena - Rot-Weiss Erfurt domingo
Then DO it - life is too short to hesitate! Flights from the UK to Germany aren't that expensive anymore these days. But it would certainly be very difficult to get tickets for Gladbach-Köln!
Nurnberg and Leverkusen The big discussion curently is the relation between Nurnberg and Leverkusen. Everyone is talking that Nurnberg will not let Leverkusen slip today and lose against them. If this is right - I think we can try a bet on HT draw and FT Leverkusen win. Nurnberg could put some resistance and then resign ... Maybe this scenario is only sensible with a Bielefeld HT lead. So I will for fun combine Bielefeld HT/FT 1/1 and Nurnberg-leverkusen HT/FT X/1. Greetings, Schwarzenegger
Hansa-St.Pauli. Hansa-Hertha. Hansa-Cottbus. Bayern-Dortmund. Bayern-Hamburg. Bayern-1860. Bayern-Stuttgart. Bayern-Nuernberg. Dortmund-Schalke. Dortmund-Bayern. Hertha-Hansa. Schalke-Dortmund. Bremen-Hamburg. Bremen-Bayern. Hamburg-Bayern. Hamburg-Bremen. Hamburg-St.Pauli. Gladbach-Koeln. Koeln-Leverkusen.
This is very true. You can fly from London to Cologne on GermanWings or Hapag Lloyd for as little as 60 euros round trip. Although you might have to fly out of Stanstead, I'm not sure.