RIP PFC

Discussion in 'Phoenix Rising FC' started by yojimbo81, Nov 2, 2013.

  1. yojimbo81

    yojimbo81 Member

    Nov 25, 2006
    Tempe, AZ
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. Alistair Fannell

    Aug 13, 2013
    Springfield, Missouri
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
  3. Riobard Mac Gabhann

    Riobard Mac Gabhann New Member

    Nov 2, 2013
    Phoenix, AZ USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Phoenix FC is gone. La Furia Roja now is a supporter's group without a club
     
  4. Alistair Fannell

    Aug 13, 2013
    Springfield, Missouri
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
    Phoenix will get another chance but it must come from another ownership and who knows it may come from the NASL.
     
  5. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  6. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I threw it out there last month in a different thread as a strictly hypothetical, but what are the chances the "new ownership group" is an MLS club setting up their own USL side?? Just wondering...
     
  7. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    50/50. Everything in life is 50/50. #mrtony

    (But, seriously, folks, the business model on that is still unproven. We'll see, I guess.)
     
  8. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Agree on the business model being unproven. It definitely seems to be a direction the league is going at this point, though. It'll be interesting to see how many MLS teams that are "rumored" to be setting up their own USL club actually do so.
     
  9. penske

    penske Member

    Feb 21, 1999
    NYC
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This clearly is turf protection by the USL side. They know if they abandon Phoenix the NASL will jump in, as they should. Be interesting if this materializes or is just a stalling measure to see if they can find interest.
     
  10. Alistair Fannell

    Aug 13, 2013
    Springfield, Missouri
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
    I agree, the NASL wanted Phoenix but the USL Pro awarded the city a soccer team.
     
  11. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, sure they will.
     
  12. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #12 kenntomasch, Nov 2, 2013
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 4, 2013
    WOULD YOU STOP?

    What the NASL "wants" is all well and good, but NO ONE APPLIED FOR AN NASL FRANCHISE FOR PHOENIX.

    The NASL said it was interesting in having a team in St. Louis, too. The NASL throws out the names of lots of cities. Where's the San Diego team? Where's that?

    Where is this ownership group just sitting and waiting for the territory to open? You think you couldn't do better than the nimrods who were running this club? If the NASL "wanted" Phoenix, they could put a team here, regardless of whether or not there was a USL Pro team here. This isn't like organized baseball, where there are territorial rights.

    Where are they going to play? Who's going to be the person with the $20M net worth who will lose a lot of it in Phoenix owning a soccer team?

    And "cities" don't get awarded soccer teams, genius.
     
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  13. MLSinSTL

    MLSinSTL Member+

    Mar 20, 2009
    Ohio - near a city
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm being lazy & don't want to look it up...but didn't RSL have their academy in Arizona, near Phoenix or something like that?
     
  14. Alistair Fannell

    Aug 13, 2013
    Springfield, Missouri
    Club:
    AC St. Louis
  15. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Then the USL season started, the Wolves management/ownership put on a clinic of "How to run a franchise into the ground", and the Sounders politely stopped answering the Wolves phone calls.
     
  16. Matt117

    Matt117 Member

    Oct 3, 2012
    Tempe, AZ
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #16 Matt117, Nov 4, 2013
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 4, 2013
    Yeah, it is in Casa Grande, which is about an hour drive from Phoenix. I'd rather not have a team in Phoenix than have a Salt Lake run/affliated team.

    More or less. One of the owners, Tim Thomas, had connections with the Sounders, but the other owners ran him out. That was probably the beginning of the end of the Phoenix FC/Sounders relationship.

    I don't want to get personal, but I just want to point out a few things about that article. “We are looking at all those cities” does not mean Phoenix was very close to being awarded a team. Just b/c a Phoenix City Councilwoman is involved in a potential group of investors doesn't mean that the council itself had any interest. The writer also does not seem to be in touch with the realities of lower division soccer. No way any soccer team, especially a 2nd/3rd division one, is going to make Cardinals (UoP) stadium their home.
     
  17. MUTINYFAN

    MUTINYFAN Member

    Apr 18, 1999
    Orlando
    Hopefully the team is officially named Phoenix Wolves FC instead of this Phoenix FC Wolves which is awkward.
     
  18. blueballs69

    blueballs69 Member

    Nov 1, 2010
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    I am hearing a new owner is in place and he knows the USL well and has been very successful.
     
  19. Golot

    Golot Member

    Aug 17, 2012
    Chandler, AZ
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hopefully they remove the word "Wolves" from their name. Naming teams after animals is kind of awkward.
     
  20. Matt117

    Matt117 Member

    Oct 3, 2012
    Tempe, AZ
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is great if true. I'm curious about the source, but I'm not expecting you to divulge. I am naturally skeptical of anything on BS and your username, while funny, doesn't help either.

    It could be worse. Wasn't it originally supposed to be Phoenix City FC? I always assumed Wolves was an homage to Wolverhampton and a reference to the Mexican Grey Wolf which lives in Arizona.
     
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  21. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Announcement this Friday?????
     
  22. 30King

    30King Member+

    Jul 22, 2013
    Rocklin, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Blue balls has made a few "take it to the bank" announcements in the Sacramento USL thread. We are still waiting.....
     
  23. OKCSoccer4life

    Oct 31, 2013
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Would doubt USL Pro would have been that explicit unless they knew they had things lined out.
     
  24. MUTINYFAN

    MUTINYFAN Member

    Apr 18, 1999
    Orlando
    And be what Phoenix FC which is kind of boring when you already have an FC Tucson in your state. At least you can call yourselves Phoenix City or Phoenix United if you don't like Wolves. And why is it awkward naming a team after an animal. Its quite common. But wait this is soccer so we have to use conventional British naming patterns. Actually Wolves and Lions are traditional names for soccer teams.
     
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  25. Golot

    Golot Member

    Aug 17, 2012
    Chandler, AZ
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You are right. It's awkward to me, but it is common for American sport teams to have animal names. I think the MLS has done a good job in naming the teams... In my opinion.

    It's not just British naming patterns, it's the rest of the world patterns.

    For example?
     

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