RIP Grant Wahl

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Craig P, Dec 9, 2022.

  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    His brother:

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    Translated eyewitness account from the time it happened (first two tweets, rest are from later):

    They are resuscitating a journalist who collapsed in the middle of the second overtime. It's about 30 meters from me but those around them hold their heads. The paramedics arrived.

    The subject looks very bad. More than ten minutes have passed and they continue with the maneuvers. It can not be believed.
    ---
    On Instagram, his brother Eric says: "I'm gay, I'm the reason my brother wore the rainbow shirt at the World Cup. My brother was healthy. He had told me that he had received threats. I don't think my brother has dead, I think they killed him."

    I would say that the rescue operation was carried out correctly. The paramedics arrived quickly and tried to revive him as much as they could. The area was somewhat covered but I saw that one was holding a serum, which gave me to understand that he was alive at that moment.





     
  2. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    One thing I always respected Wahl for was resigning from SI when the usual corporate raiders bought the magazine and wrecked it in order to strip mine it for assets. A lot of big salary journalists like Wahl were ordered to take paycuts along with everybody else on staff. Wahl could have easily accepted it and maintained a lock on a prime media platform.

    But Wahl seems to be an independently wealthy guy and has been confident in his ability to find a platform, so could afford to stand up on principle. He left SI and thus created a spot for another journalist to take over. Respect.

    (And yep, I remember seeing Wahl get criticized for this decision.)
     
  3. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    It was just GrantWahl. But I doubt it survived the various server transitions/crashes over the the decades.
     
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  4. TurdFerguson

    TurdFerguson Member

    United States
    Jan 11, 2013
    It didn’t have to be the “government” who killed him, could easily be someone mad about him bringing awareness to what went on with Qatar hosting the WC.
     
  5. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    1601410235079725056 is not a valid tweet id
     
  6. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m going to let this sit a few days and discuss it with a clear head when the time is right, but something seems off about this
     
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  7. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh my God, I've been off-line for hours and just saw this posted on Twitter.

    Unspeakably awful.

    A person that I never met but felt like I knew for years.

    Condolences to his loved ones in real life.
     
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  8. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He also said on his last podcast that he came down with bronchitis by burning himself out covering the event.

    He also said he had been treated and was feeling better.

    Absolutely no idea if it is connected.

    Edit: I see that several people have beaten me to this...
     
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  9. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

    mine
    United States
    Aug 31, 2017
    This is extremely sad.

    This on MLS.com has a lot of nicely written tweets from teams and colleagues. Puts into perspective how good of a guy he was and how much he will be missed. https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/mls-remembers-grant-wahl

    I respected him greatly even though I didn't really follow his work. It's a shame that he was kind of a lightning rod for some.

    He seemed to be at an exciting point in his career, and I was interested to see what he was coming up with as it seemed like he had some freedom to pursue projects that he wanted to do rather than simply following a beat.
     
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  10. miggly

    miggly Member

    Jan 25, 2000
    NYC
    I'm stunned and so saddened by this. He wrote about the US team when pretty much, post-Jerry Trecker, no one else did. Thank you so much for all your work Grant. Please rest in peace,
     
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  11. Jazzy Altidore

    Jazzy Altidore Member+

    Sep 2, 2009
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be fair SI had been dying for a long time. It’s a magazine after all. I used to read it weekly but I can’t remember the last time I visited the website.
     
  12. TurdFerguson

    TurdFerguson Member

    United States
    Jan 11, 2013
    I think lots of folks, myself included want to blame someone for this, because it’s hard to believe it happened. 99% it was natural causes. The need to blame is even stronger because of everything surrounding Qatar hosting the WC. I do hope the state department can get his body so an actual autopsy can be done.
     
  13. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  14. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1601425188117438464 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  15. neems

    neems Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Apr 14, 2009
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’ve been hard on him and plenty of American journalists for being soft on US Soccer. Eventually have learned the insulated and interconnected culture of USSF and MLS will ice you out big time. So, this is definitely making me pause a bit on the actually intense and conflicting work these guys go through to write with value in purpose.

    RIP Grant - You moved mountains for others to walk easier.
     
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  16. TurdFerguson

    TurdFerguson Member

    United States
    Jan 11, 2013
    It’s weird how some people you never met, cause legit sadness when they pass. Grant is definitely that for me.
     
  17. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I remember one time he was traveling in some city covering college basketball and was trying to find a way to watch the USMNT in an away qualifier that was only televised on some shady PPV. He found a BigSoccer poster who invited him and a couple of other BigSoccer randos to his house for the game.
     
  18. TurdFerguson

    TurdFerguson Member

    United States
    Jan 11, 2013
    9 am in Doha. Still nothing from Fox, Fox Soccer, or ALEXI.
     
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  19. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Might have been Columbus? I remember that as well.
     
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  20. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    I’m watching closely how Fox handles this. I don’t want to see any evidence of anyone hiding anything.
     
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  21. Papin

    Papin BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 19, 1998
    le côté obscur
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fox and its "talent" have been in bed with the Qataris this entire tournament.
     
  22. TurdFerguson

    TurdFerguson Member

    United States
    Jan 11, 2013
    Their lack of anything screams, PR meetings with their handlers.
     
  23. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's just about where I would put the probabilities, 99% natural to 1% him being killed...

    Far more likely than the Qatari government killing him for his journalism or shirt is that the medical people who saw him in Qatar misdiagnosed early warning signs of cardiac arrest as bronchitis...
     
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  24. TurdFerguson

    TurdFerguson Member

    United States
    Jan 11, 2013
    Then made him go to the hospital in an UBER vs an ambulance. Shithole government
     
  25. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    im just coming home to this, and very selfishly it feels so personal.

    hes just 3 years older than me, and covered the two sports (soccer and college bb) that are my two passions. you can chart soccers growth in this country by him, including covering womens soccer when no one else was.

    he was both the main-est of mainstream yet always true to his love of the game. he lost his job at si standing up for the "lesser" writers being laid off, has covered the human cost of this world cup, etc.

    i dont want to get too far off the incredible loss of his voice in american sports (full stop) but if he is remembered for a pic in a rainbow shirt, at this world cup, having an openly gay brother, having written stories entire networks actively cover up i think thats pretty fitting.

    on the complete opposite end of the spectrum is the silence from fox and all those covering this world cup for them.
     

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