RIP -- Consequential Person Has Passed Away

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  1. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    Marv Throneberry had a .237 career batting average! o_O
     
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  2. VFish

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    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
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    Lighten up Francis, it was a joke. But Shirley LSU could beat the snot out of the Redskins.
     
  3. taosjohn

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    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    However, most of those all-star teams would have murdered any regular season college championship team. Some of those rookie classes were memorable in the extreme.

    And some of those years the pro championship teams didn't exactly prepare for the game by getting a good night's sleep, I think. Or any.

    And I think the distance between college level and pro has widened over the years-- the worst NFL teams are, to my eyes, bigger stronger, faster, smarter and more mobile than the very best college teams; or even the best NFL teams of 1966, for that matter. Drop the Lombardi Packers into the NFC east of today and they might not win a game, certainly wouldn't be .500 in the division. Them playing LSU or Clemson might be pick 'em.
     
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  4. Dr. Wankler

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    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    IIRC, the series ended when one of the college all stars got his leg broken. And again IIRC, the guy who broke the leg (on a clean tackle) was my older brother's former dorm floor-mate, Steeler safety Mike Wagner.
     
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  5. song219

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    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    I thought you were going to say Dema Kovalenko. :)
     
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  6. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    Even after I included the phrase "clean tackle"? Really?
     
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  7. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
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  8. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    They weren't obscure, but they sure were crappy. Rush and Loverboy, thanks Canada.
     
  9. InTheSun

    InTheSun Member+

    Oct 20, 2005
    The Andes Mountains
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    Ecuador
    RIP Neil.
     
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  10. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
  11. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
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    They are in my universe. Neither them nor Floyd are permitted to be played
     
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  12. superdave

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    My recollection is that there was a massive rainstorm in the 3rd period one year, the game was ended, and they never played it again.

    @taosjohn can the Packers use modern analytics, nutrition, weight training, etc?
     
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  13. luftmensch

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    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
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    I'm not a huge fan at this point either but Rush was miles beyond Loverboy.

    I did see them live back in the early 90's, good show. New songs sucked, old songs didn't, pretty much what you'd expect.
     
  14. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    Chicago Fire
    That happened too. My brother was there, I'm pretty sure.

    Is this the Vince Lombardi version of Spartacus' Piper Cub?
     
  15. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Won't make much difference, because they won't be preselected for guys it can help. Gregg and Skoronski, the tackles, played at about 250, Gregg usually finishing the year a little lighter than that. They were already eating and lifting a lot-- they weren't going to get to 310 either of them, and while they never gave up a sack, either of them IIRC, that's not a weight that's going to impede a modern bull rusher all game long.

    Where this really comes up is with the centers-- none of the all time greats were, I think, ever going to get near 300. Heaviest was Webster, and he was already using fairly modern methods just to get to and stay at maybe 260.

    So sure. Might get them an extra win or two.
     
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  16. Auriaprottu

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    Apr 1, 2002
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    --other--

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    Speechless. Sure, Rush is an acquired taste (I like a fair bit of them), but Floyd??? What do you listen to?
     
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  17. VFish

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    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
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    He hates Rush for the message.
     
  18. luftmensch

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    Well to be fair, as a lyricist Neil Peart was an excellent drummer.
     
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  19. Auriaprottu

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    Apr 1, 2002
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    Yup. Peart's lyrics are easily ignored. Or sung along to without giving them any real thought.
     
  20. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
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    I have to laugh at Wile E Coyote's house rules. Apparently no free thinkers are welcome, but on the other hand anti-semites shunned too.
     
  21. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    As everyone should. They're as fascist as Queen!

    Get a load of this bonkers NME interview from 1978:

    With all the discussion about individuals, it was inevitable that the conversation should turn to Ayn Rand – high priestess of the ultra-right reds-under-the-bed brigade. It seemed very odd to me that a 70s rock group should dig up a cold war hero and warm her up.

    Neil: “She’s just a very brilliant woman, an excellent writer, but a brilliant thinker as well. She has a great clarity of thought.”

    Geddy: “I think she’s brought forth a lot of concepts and philosophies that have confirmed for us a lot of different things. I’ve just found it very positive. I’ve found it very positive. I’ve found a lot of truth in what she writes.”

    Ayn Rand’s philosophy, in her own words, is that “To be free, a man must be free of his brothers. That is freedom. That and nothing else.” (Anthem, 1937).

    In other words, the exact opposite to Christian charity and the whole European humanist tradition. In fact, she regards “altruism as incompatible with man’s nature, with the requirements of his survival, and with a free society.” This is the theme of her book The Virtue of Selfishness: A New Concept of Egoism.

    Ayn Rand is, naturally, fanatically anti-Communist. Her books are dedicated to “helping to prevent … a socialist America” and are filled with constant attacks on the evils of “collectivism”. By this she means such communist horrors as free medical care, free schooling, unemployment benefits, sick pay, etc. Under the system of laissez-faire capitalism she advocates, it would be a return to a total free-for-all with no controls at all on employers and with no welfare state at all. It’s a system long ago regarded as absolutely unworkable, even by such well-known communists as David Rockefeller … but there are still a few extremists left on the far right in the States and, surprisingly enough, Rush side with them. Our conversation went like this:

    Neil: “We’re certainly devoted to individualism as the only concept that allows men to be happy, without somebody taking from somebody else. The thing for me about Ayn Rand is that her philosophy is the only one applicable to the world today – in every sense. If you take her ideas, then take them farther in your own mind, you can find answers to pretty well everything on an individual basis. Putting the individual as the first priority, everything can be made to work in a way that it can never be made to work under any other system.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/may/13/rush-nme-interview-1978-rocks-backpages
     
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  22. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
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    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Queen, or the Queen? What did they do/say? are you serious?
     
  23. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
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    Queen are facists? Who knew.

    I am just glad my quip sent you off on time wasting snipe hunt. Your strings are to tight my friend.
     
  24. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Mostly tongue in cheek. It was a quote from an epic takedown of their Jazz album

    There’s no Jazz on Queen’s new record, in case fans of either were worried about the defilement of an icon. Queen hasn’t the imagination to play jazz — Queen hasn’t the imagination, for that matter, to play rock & roll. Jazz is just more of the same dull pastiche that’s dominated all of this British supergroup’s work: tight guitar/bass/drums heavy-metal clichés, light-classical pianistics, four-part harmonies that make the Four Freshmen sound funky and Freddie Mercury’s throat-scratching lead vocals.

    Anyway, it shouldn’t be surprising that Queen calls its album “jazz.” The guiding principle of these arrogant brats seems to be that anything Freddie & Company want, Freddie & Company get. What’s most disconcerting about their arrogance is that it’s so unfounded: Led Zeppelin may be as ruthless as medieval aristocrats, but at least Jimmy Page has an original electronic approach that earns his band some of its elitist notions. The only thing Queen does better than anyone else is express contempt...

    ...Whatever its claims, Queen isn’t here just to entertain. This group has come to make it clear exactly who is superior and who is inferior. Its anthem, “We Will Rock You,” is a marching order: you will not rock us, we will rock you. Indeed, Queen may be the first truly fascist rock band. The whole thing makes me wonder why anyone would indulge these creeps and their polluting ideas.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/jazz-188987/
     

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  25. Auriaprottu

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    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
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    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Damn...RS went full English fishwrap wannabe on 'em. I mean, I like Zep and all, but I'd enjoy them just as much with pretty much any singer, including Geddy Lee. I don't even know why Plant was there, except for the fact that pop needs someone up front. Queen's vocal harmonies, OTOH, are the best rock ever had by miles.
     
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