Richest clubs in CONCACAF region

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  1. psveindhoven

    psveindhoven New Member

    May 17, 2006
    I have a list with the 422 richest sports clubs in the world:

    http://www.stadiumzone.weebly.com

    Only two MLS clubs and a few Mexican in the list?? I thought both leagues should be bigger, how about the New York Red Bulls for example?
     
  2. silverlion

    silverlion Member

    Nov 23, 2001
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Go Yankees bitches!!!!!!!


    BTW, I saw college teams on the list making more money than a lot of pro teams, that's weak.
     
  3. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Why is that weak? College sports are very popular. They have lots of income. I'd much rather go to or watch a college basketball game than an NBA game. College and pro football are about equal to me. I watch one on Saturday and the other on Sunday. No conflict.
     
  4. Albee

    Albee Member

    Dec 28, 2007
    This list is questionable. Some of the revenues are either too high for some or too low for others. It's bullshit.
     
  5. silverlion

    silverlion Member

    Nov 23, 2001
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What I meant to say is that how can US college teams make so much more money than some 'big' clubs?
     
  6. chapka

    chapka Member+

    May 18, 2004
    Haverford, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because America is a big place. Sometimes people seem to forget just how big, relative to Europe.

    For example: the Texas Longhorns football team made more revenue than Rangers, Bolton, Hull, Newcastle, or Stoke City.

    Austin, Texas isn't thought of as a particularly large American city. But with a metro area population of 1.7 million, it'd be the fourth largest city in England. Add in a half-million or so UT alumni scattered around Texas and around the country (and their families) and you have a sizable base to draw from.

    Compare that to Hull (population around 500,000), Bolton (population around 250,000), or Stoke (about the same), and it's obvious why UT's revenues are higher.

    Glasgow is a bit larger, at around 2.5 million...but, of course that's split between two major teams. Tyne and Wear is actually smaller than Austin, and it's split between Sunderland (just higher than UT) and Newcastle (just lower).

    Then add in the fact that the UT Austin stadium seats more than 100,000 fans. Then add in the fact that American national broadcasting rights in general are more lucrative than British ones, because they cover a lot more eyeballs (and UT has its own $10 million/year ESPN deal). It all adds up pretty quickly.
     
  7. MikDonsen

    MikDonsen New Member

    Sep 24, 2011
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Because america/cananda combined, is equal in monetary sense than all of europe combined. This means europe split the same amount of money between about 600 soccer clubs. While in north america, there's only about 150 professional sports teams including mls. The remainding amount of money gets spent on college teams. College teams are the true equal to 2nd divisions in England, and equal to that of the first division in some of the smaller leagues such as czech republic or dennmark.
     
  8. Goforthekill

    Goforthekill Member

    Aug 13, 2011
    Minnesota
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Acctually i saw 14 MLS clubs, but not the Red Bulls, Seattle was highest with a revenue of 51 million Euros.
     
  9. 562nation

    562nation Member

    May 10, 2004
    (562)areacode LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    MLS teams are richer


    pretty pathetic then because the mexican teams are much better.......muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucchhhhh better!!!
     
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  11. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Kingston Stockade
    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    MLS has a very strict salary cap. I don't think you're this moronic by accident. Did your mom drop a 1-gallon jug of tequila on your head as an infant?
     
  12. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    lol oh you talkin about mom´s

    oh hell no!

    lol

    your one clever muthafacka ain´t ya?
     
  13. Skippysasquirrel

    May 11, 2012
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    lol really? News to me. Better, but "muuuuuucccccchhhhhhhh" better is quite the stretch.
     
  14. Mr. Manhattan

    Mr. Manhattan Member

    Nov 4, 2011
    CA
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    When the MLS teams don't even compete with the Mexican teams in the CCL...i's not really a far fetched point.
     
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  15. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not really, by the numbers Liga MX is muuuuuuccccchhh better than MLS, just like the Brazil League is much-much-much better than Liga MX.

    Based on coefficients LMX is about 40 points better than MLS, Serie A (BRA) is about 50 points better than LMX (Imagine the huge difference between Serie A and MLS)
     
  16. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    thats right man. Its no stretch at all. Really? Its news to you? Mexican teams have reached the final of Copa Libertadores....nuff said really!

    But I`ll go on just to prove my point further......mexican teams practically dominated the Copa Sudamericana the 4 years Concacaf teams were invited! Mexican teams have a winning head to head record against all Conmebol leagues in both Libertadores and Sudamericana with the exception of the brazilian league!

    Mexican teams are currently dominating the Concacaf Champions League like no other league has dominated any continental tourney.......ever! The last time an mls team eliminated a mexican team from the CCL I think Richard Nixon was still president of the U.S.:D

    Mexican teams have indeed proven that they are muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccchhhhhhh better than mls teams!
     
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  17. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Liga MX is closer to the Brazilian league, than MLS is to Liga MX
     
  18. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Personally I agree with you, but not if we go by coefficients.

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/¿deriamos-de-tener-coeficiente-en-la-libertadores.526674/page-3

    Brz.....93.684
    Mex....49.767
    Bolivia....25.333
    Difference = 48.917

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/community/threads/concacaf-champions-league-coefficient.1187575/page-16

    Mex...81.624
    Can...47.5
    USA...36.375
    Diff (using only USA) = 45.249

    But one thing in favor of MX is that Mexican teams have eliminated Brazilian teams in Libertadores, MLS teams have not eliminated MX teams. So the argument could go either way.

    Edit: Also Libertadores is a much more difficult competition than the CCL and the last 3-4 years Mexico scored has taken a hit by the MX champs going to the CCL and the Monterrey teams doing shit in the Libertadores.

    Actually Mexico is closer to Bolivia than it is to Brazil in the Libertadores (23.767 point differnce).

    MLS would probably be around the Venezuela, Peru mark in Libertadores.
     
  19. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How did you come to the conclusion that MLS teams are richer? The report shows that MLS may have more valuable brands, but observe the enterprise values (EV) and the percentage of that value accounted for by brand value (BV/EV) for the whole story.

    The Mexican clubs have have higher enterprise values than all MLS clubs but Seattle, LA and NY. Also the BV/EV ratio is lower for the Mexican clubs. For example, RSL has a brand value that is higher than Pachuca's, but the latter team's total value is about two-and-a-half times as much.

    If MLS brands are already worth more than some top FMF clubs (and even Brazilian and Argentine clubs), if they can make up ground in other revenue sources, they could eventually become pretty dominant in this part of the world.
     
  20. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    IF IF IF. You guys' favorite word.

    They won't become dominant, btw. Dream on.

    Are you using it as an excuse? That would be sad and moronic. If a guy cut off his own legs, then gets pwned in a race, does anyone wanna hear him say "But I cut off my legs!!! waa!!!"?
     
  21. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's really funny how emotional some of you guys get about this subject. I'd stock up on Kleenex now, if I were you--the FMF won't be super-dominant in this region forever.
     
  22. jared9999

    jared9999 Member+

    Jan 3, 2005
    Naucalpan Estado de Mex
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! pot/kettle

    been hearing this for how many years now?

    ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

    At least Concacrap doesn`t have to give mexican teams help!! LOL
     
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  23. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Awwww. You guys are adorable. :) Are you mad because MLS brands are already worth more than FMF clubs that have been around 3 times as long? I remember Mexican fans were so confident that the US national team would never catch up to theirs either. How'd that go? But hey--if all those exclamation points make you feel better, keep piling them on.
     
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  24. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    You don't know that. It's very possible that the super-dominance will continue forever. Then you'll be the one who will need Kleenex. You already do now, since your teams get pounded every year.
    Only like what, 2 are worth more? And that doesn't matter one bit since they get crushed on the pitch anyway. That's what matters.
     
  25. lerxst

    lerxst Member

    May 23, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Well that escalated rather quickly.
     

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