Richard “Richie” Ledezma at PSV Eindhoven

Same thought I had. Been wondering if it'll be a season-long loan or not, or maybe something in-between (in terms of loan flexibility). Though, history suggests that NYCFC wouldn't agree to a short-term loan.

 

That ultimately depends on the quality boost you get. If it's a big boost, do you walk away or settle for the next best thing, a shorter loan?

 

Is Ledezma really going to beat out Santi Rodriguez in the XI? Santi has looked great since rejoining. Pellegrini and Pereira are also tough competition

 

if he is not going to start....what benefit would the move have?

I dont like this for him.

 

I don’t know, maybe he beats out the competition for a starting job. Or maybe getting regular minutes off the bench in NY is also a positive step for him.

There needs to be a little bit of a reality check here,

In a few months, he will turn 23 and he has only 421 career first team minutes in all competitions. There just are not many clubs anywhere at a decent level where he is going to walk into a starting lineup after playing such little soccer. It’s going to be part of a process to get there. And regular minutes off the bench for NYCFC is not necessarily a bad place to start.

 

Why did PSV demand he sign for another year to facilitate the loan?

These big clubs seem to be so ruthless about player "development" i.e. a lot of them dont seem to care

also, there may not be many high ranking clubs where he would walk into a starting role but a lot of minutes should be a pre-req for any loan. he can sit on the bench at PSV.....(besides, there are pleny of MLS clubs he would start for, imo....so going to MLS and riding pine would be a worst-case scenario, imo)

 

I am not sure how many teams in MLS he would start for. I have not seen him enough in recent times to make that judgment. But there is also the issue of how he would do in the daily grind. He has never once done that before.

but for arguments sake, let’s say he is good enough. He also has to be a lot better than the existing options to start because, wherever he goes, the club has no incentive to develop him.

Let’s say he’s better than Noel Buck at the Revs. The Revs are going to want to play Buck because they’ll see the reward in his development

But I think Richie will play at NYCF. It might be off the bench, but regular bench minutes are still an improvement for him. He’s not getting off the pine at PSV

 

I don’t think he will, but Santi might be even better at LW where there hasn’t been a solution so far this year. Since scoring against Chicago Pereira has looked rough, and Pellegrini is fine but hasn’t shown the ability to take over a game. There is going to be plenty of rotation as the team figures out its best attacking rotations, and with lots of young guys players are going to go in and out of form.

The minutes are there to be had. Also, watching yesterday it sure would be nice to have someone to spell Parks. Right now there’s no one who can come in and offer quality going forward from CM. They’re in danger of spreading him too thin; he’s played basically as a forward while closing out the last two games and has played every minute of the season.

 

IMO a long-term loan means that there'll be an option-to-buy, whether explicit or not, and the loan and the contract extension are designed to boost his July/December sale price.

If they see him as a young player with progress derailed by injuries, a spring/summer fighting for PT will see him ready to contribute from the off in pre-season. If he's still in the US when the Eredivise window closes autumn window closes, he'll either be sold or loaned out again. The likes of PSV integrate a player in the winter break, it's usually because he's a major signing whose price mandates playing him

 

do you watch MLS? I'm surprised you dont think Ledezma plays a ton for a lot of teams. I see NYC as a harder than avg team to break into.

I dont like the loan if it isnt to actually play....and that goes for almost any player. His best plan should be working hard in pre-season at PSV this summer and breaking into the team then. I hope this loacn will still allow for that, at least.

 

i watch plenty of MLS and NYCFC. I don't watch a lot of Ledezma these days

 

The sad thing is that playing a regular 20-30 minutes per game would be a big improvement in his situation.

 

It's been awfully hard to watch a lot of Ledezma unless you're an assistant coach at PSV.

 

Damn ESPN/BeIn Sport/whoever!

 

So would 10-15 minutes.

Or even 5

 

The eagle has landed:

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What do we call a Yank abroad on loan to the Yankees?

 

that looks like the carrizo kid!

 

It kind of does, but Carrizo wears 29 and Ledezma here is wearing 20. Carrizo is also shorter but a little more sturdily built

 

RSL loaning his MLS rights is a little weird cause in terms of squad talent I feel like he'd have a better shot at starting with RSL than NYCFC. And the fact that RSL wants to retain his rights long-term suggest we aren't ruling out having him here in the future. Maybe Richie didn't want to come back to RSL?

 

It had crossed my mind but I wasn‘t gonna say it.

 

I understand teams needing to protect their investment in homegrown academy players. But there should be some set amount of compensation for these sorts of situations that decreases over time the longer it’s been that they’ve been gone.

 

This is not the forum, I guess, but for folks like me who only frequent this part of BS, it's interesting to note RL has had steadily increasing minutes in MLS, with three 20+ sub appearances and then a 60 min start. Early days, but looks like he will get some much-needed regular PT on his loan. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.