Ricardo Pepi at PSV Eindhoven

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  1. harttbeat

    harttbeat Member+

    Dec 29, 1998
    New York
    Strictly leading scorers, not much success last 24 + years. Suarez , RVN and kuyt. That's not a good rate.
     
  2. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    so Pepi just needs to make sure not to win it.
     
  3. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Pathetic straw man. Using your actual logic, we should all be concerned that de Jong will throw a hissy fit and destroy team chemistry this year since he’s not playing as much and losing out to his own teammate in the Eredivisie golden boot race.
     
  4. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    Much better than a lot of leagues of similar overall quality.
     
  5. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    lol. Yeah “logic” “ it’s a goddamn syllogism Eddie!” I love people’s desire for a good outrage. Happy Thanksgiving!
     
  6. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
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    There actually aren't any other leagues of similar overall quality IMO.

    Belgium's Top 5 would be close enough to the Eredivisie's Top 6 but the drop off to even the middle of the Juplier is far greater and Portugal is the permanent triumvirs, plus Braga, and their 14 sparring partners. As for the SPL . . .

    After the Top 5, it's far and away the best and I wouldn't be that convinced of Ligue Un being superior. The UEFA Coefficient gap is negligible: 60.379 for the French versus 57.233 for the Eredivisie and 54.016 for Portugal.

    The big Portugese teams (Porto, Sporting, Benfica and Braga) tend to deeper but the Dutch get more teams into the group stages
     
  7. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    A combined Dutch Belgian league would be a very decent league. Would never happen but would be very competitive at current team strength.
     
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  8. Atm the number of CL slots (straight in and qualifiers) is 5.
    As a combined one it would drop to three at best.
    Means two clubs without a chance to get into a guaranteed 40 million dance.
    That's not talking about the slots cancelled in the EL and Conf.
    So were talking about sacrificing far over a hundred million for what?
     
  9. The Irish Rover

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    #4359 The Irish Rover, Nov 30, 2024
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    It's been talked about at club and league level, sometimes quite intensively, over the last 30 years.

    The idea is to combine the Top 6 in each, add in the Old Firm and Portugal's Big 3 and create what's been dubbed an "Atlantic League" with pro/rel back to national leagues. Another variant involved Scandinavian leagues, notably Denmark and Sweden.

    UEFA nixed it at every stage, but have become more open to it under Ceferin - the Baltic states are working on a single league and UEFA are being positively supportive. On top of which the SPL was locked into 10-year TV rights deal in the mid-noughties that the Old Firm would have found it extremely difficult to pull out of; without them, the idea would have lost a lot of its saleability.

    UEFA opposition, plus the complexities of pulling out of existing TV rights contract, sponsorship deals, etc. have stymied the deal. Added to which the interest has been intense in Holland, while the Portugese have always been "interested but not invested"; which is why the Scandinavians keep popping into and out of the frame.

    With Benfica, Porto and Sporting the idea has global reach (massive support in parts of Africa and Asia, deep interest in South America). Without them, it's a regional league - the North Sea League, you could say - and that just doesn't have the same ring to it.
     
  10. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    I just wanna see Pepi score at least 20 league goals this season, 25 in all competitions.

    Avoid the Premier League though tempted and maybe do another season in PSV as the starting striker.
     
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  11. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Yeah. As I said, it would never happen, but it still would be, as I wrote, a very decent league. The Atlantic League idea has been around forever now, but one of the big issues will always be the idea that Celtic, Gers, the Juliper and perhaps a few Ered teams will give up CL/UEFA ball in exchange for a better more competitive league is pretty much a non-starter, even if the TV and ticket revenue goes up by multiples. But that still does not make it untrue that a combined Dutch/Belgian league would be a pretty decent, pretty competitive league.
     
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  12. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Pepi played the final 13 minutes in PSV's decisive 5-2 away win over 2nd place Utrecht.
     
  13. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    #4363 freisland, Dec 1, 2024
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2024
    Pepi now has 520 Ered minutes, 665 PSV minutes overall plus another 260 for the US. Has at least stepped on the grass in all but 1 league and 1 Europe game. Has 11 goals.

    LdJ did not score today.
     
  14. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Ironically, Pepi remains 3 league goals above LdJ (9 to 6) - tied for the Ered goal scoring lead - but has appeared in one more game. (lol) although, of course, has fewer League minutes. LdJ has 775 to Pepi's 520.
     
  15. BostonRed

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  16. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
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    Wait, sorry, is that 'Backup Team of the Month,' or the real deal?
     
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  17. wrench

    wrench Member+

    May 12, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Knock knock. Who's there? Hey, Coach, it's Ricardo...
     
  18. Dervos

    Dervos Member+

    Mar 13, 2002
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    Austin Aztex
    Ricardo who?
    Ricardo who scores all the goals.
     
  19. freisland

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    Jan 31, 2001
  20. DGreat

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    CD Guadalajara
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    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
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    Mexico
  21. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

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    Aug 31, 2017
    Why not?
     
  22. Mt Stone@

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    Because he wanted to play for the better national team.
     
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  23. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Shirley, you jest. Pepi had almost 2x (well, ok, call it ~1.5x) the number of league minutes in Nov that LdJ had...

    LdJ 109
    Pepi 170
     
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  24. DGreat

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    CD Guadalajara
    Mexico
    Oct 5, 2007
    El Ombligo
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Because his behavior has shown he is not a typical 1st gen Mex-American that would desire to play for Mexico. That is my politically correct answer.
     
  25. don Lamb

    don Lamb Member+

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    Aug 31, 2017
    If you are referring to him calling some Mexicans monkeys or whatever, I'm not sure I'd jump to the conclusion that that was born from racist sentiments. He clearly grew up idolizing Mexican players and grew up with strong ties to and influences from Mexico.

    I just researched that incident... He "liked" a tweet that said, "These Mexican monkeys can't admit they have no talent." He then "unliked" it probably after thinking about it and realizing how bad those optics were. Regardless, it would be weird to take this single incident as a suggestion that he isn't proud of his Mexican heritage or didn't have dreams of one day playing for Mexico at some point. He was probably bitter about something else he had just seen on twitter, and maybe it was even a reaction against some nasty shit that had been directed at him? He was like 18 at the time.

    Maybe there is something more that you are referring to, though.
     
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