Ricardo Pepi at PSV Eindhoven

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  1. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    salary cap and roster designations are in place for what puropse then???

    all of the mechanisms are there to limit spending (and also in theory to keep teams equally competitive...which is a farce when you look at lafc or atlanta and teams like san jose or vancouver etc)

    i remember shalrie joseph. i remember other cases of players who had offers but werent allowed to leave. it happened.

    also during the phase with klinsmann there was a hige push by the league to get all of the usmnt players back in mls (jozy, bradley, etc) and to prevent the current ones from leaving (besler, zusi, etc)(all of this to disastorus effect for the usmnt, btw)....they werent purposefully trying to limit the amount of money that they got for players, at all. but they werent pursuing it or prioritizing it as a strategy.

    Go back to landon donovan....they wanted american stars IN MLS...not out of it.

    look at the cases of fabian castillo and sanvezzi...those guys basically had to leave without permission just to get out of MLS.....I guess you dont remember how it was.

    whenever they did transfer a player of course they wanted as much money as possible, perhaps you misunderstood me. i never said they didnt.
     
  2. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    also during the phase with klinsmann there was a hige push by the league to get all of the usmnt players back in mls (jozy, bradley, etc) and to prevent the current ones from leaving (besler, zusi, etc)(all of this to disastorus effect for the usmnt, btw)....they werent purposefully trying to limit the amount of money that they got for players, at all. but they werent pursuing it or prioritizing it as a strategy.

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    That is a hell of a cause/effect argument you're making. Mostly, those players were simply not remotely good enough, and you're mostly talking about a lost generation
     
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  3. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    Yep.


    Jozy was inconsistent for club and country throughout his career, and guys like Besler and Zusi were never more than solid CONCACAF players. Our guys just weren’t that good.
     
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  4. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
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    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Besler was better than a CONCACAF player. He had a really good USMNT career when you add it all up.
     
  5. theboogeyman

    theboogeyman Member+

    Jun 21, 2010
    He was good enough to help us get out of our World Cup group, but not any more than that. Maybe he could’ve been decent for a lower end Bundesliga team for a couple years, but by the time he was 30 he was washed up.

    I liked besler a lot, but pointing to him as a really quality player shows how poor our pool was in the 20-teens.
     
  6. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #56 bshredder, Jul 28, 2021
    Last edited: Jul 28, 2021
    Well, that was one tough WC group to get out of. You can't gloss over that accomplishment flippantly.

    I mean, Besler didn't really have any hiccups - at least when he was in his 20s.

    - 2 Gold Cup titles
    - 1 Hex Winning title
    - 1 Copa America semifinalist
    - 1x advancing out of a WC group (which was a remarkably hard group).

    Yes, that's a bit beyond a USMNT average player.

    He wasn't even part of things when they started to go south under Klinsmann - which is what you're referring to when the missing years started to hit. He wasn't on the 2015 Gold Cup (due to Ventura Alvarado) and he wasn't part of Klinsmann's final qualifying teams.
     
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  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    That has nothing to do with MLS.
     
  8. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
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    United States
    Keep digging.
     
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  9. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    He was probably the best of that bunch, of the 2014 cycle generation, that didn't make it to Europe (Jozy, Bradley, Dempsey) along with Fabian Johnson. Assuming you classify Yedlin and Brooks as part of the 2022 generation.
     
  10. Napoleon_BA

    Napoleon_BA Member

    May 22, 2009
    Club:
    CA Lanús
    I'm fairly certain that he'll play for Mexico.

    That comes from reading his quotes from two years ago, from earlier this year, and from seeing the Mexican flag with soccer balls on it on his wall in a video interview he did sometime in the last couple of years. Playing for El Tri is his childhood dream and the dream of his family. Someday soon, he'll make the switch, but it will be after he's transferred to Europe.
     
  11. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bologna pressing for a move:

    https://www.gazzetta.it/Calciomerca...15-agosto-tutte-trattative-420459453497.shtml

    In the meantime, he is interested in Ricci (released from Spezia), there are no reports on Ounas and Farias, Feghir is an almost fading operation while the track that leads to the eighteen-year-old Texan of Mexican origin Ricardo Pepi born in El Paso (Texas) remains alive. and that in the first 17 games with Dallas (in MLS) he scored 8 goals.
     
  12. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

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  13. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    feels like bologna mightve missed their chance
     
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  14. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
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  15. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
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    New York Red Bulls
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    United States
    Damn how did he get "El Tren"? I always think of El Tren Valencia,
     
  16. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Me too. But maybe it became public domain since Valencia retired over 15 years ago.
     
  17. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It doesn't make any sense. Tren Valencia was because he was a big, strong dude that once he got going was hard to stop. Pepi needs his own nickname.
     
  18. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
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  19. kickin365

    kickin365 Member+

    Mar 4, 2002
    Right, actual train versus hype train.
     
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  20. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Maybe they meant love train?
     
  21. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

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  22. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    is there a deeper reason for the serie a rumors? seems like you hear more about their interest than any other league
     
  23. RidiculousLichaj

    May 18, 2012
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    Having Pepi training with/learning from Zlatan every day would certainly not be the worst thing ever…
     
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  24. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
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    United States
    Did the Galaxy forwards learn anything from him? Not enough for them to make the playoffs.
     
  25. RidiculousLichaj

    May 18, 2012
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    *eye roll* name one Galaxy forward with Pepi’s potential.
     
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