Ricardo Carvahlo or William Gallas?

Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by Sid Wilson, Dec 22, 2005.

  1. Sid Wilson

    Sid Wilson New Member

    Mar 24, 2005
    Perth, Australia
    just wondering who chelsea fans think should partner john terry in the heart of the chelsea defence?

    both are quality defenders, but carvahlo has been favoured to gallas at CB since chelsea's reign of success with gallas proving his versatility at LB and RB as well as sometimes CB,

    however some believe that galas is better than carvahlo at CB as carvahlo tends to commit too many fouls close to goal?

    its also been said that gallas has become unsettled at chelsea as he has been played out of position and that consequently he may leave in the near future, in my opinion chelsea cant afford to offload gallas to another competitor,

    so the question must be asked who should be the CB partner for john terry at chelsea?
     
  2. maturin

    maturin Member

    Jun 8, 2004
    I say it should be Gallas whenever possible. I'd venture that at least 75% percent of us on this board will share that view as well.
     
  3. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    At least. The numbers with Gallas at the back rather than Carvalho are stark. Last season nearly all the goals scored against us were with Carvalho playing CB.
     
  4. jjayg

    jjayg New Member

    May 9, 2002
    Rolling Ghettos, IL
    Ricky is a wonderful player...but give me Gallas any day of the week and twice on Sundays. Thank you very much.
     
  5. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Carvahlo....it should definitely be Huth and Carvalho starting.

    :p

    [/waits for inevitable you still wouldn't score reply/]
     
  6. TxTechGooner

    TxTechGooner we're having fun here, no?

    Feb 24, 2003
  7. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Isn't the question, Gallas or Terry - ?
     
  8. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Why would it be?
     
  9. JoshDB

    JoshDB New Member

    Apr 27, 2005
    Washington State
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gallas over Carvalho for sure. Dicky gives away too many dangerous set-pieces and penalties.
     
  10. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    as long as you are playing Arsenal, it doesn't matter. :p :D (to yoss)
     
  11. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If the question is who is better, it is between
    Gallas and Terry, because Gallas is surely better
    than Carvalho.

    Unless the thread means, 'who should start'.
     
  12. srd....

    srd.... Member

    Apr 20, 2004
    Cork City.
    well he did ask....
    mate.

    gallas for me also.
     
  13. Sempre

    Sempre ****************** Member+

    Mar 4, 2005
    NYC
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    LOL. Good thing I'm on vacation, my mind is
    really sharp today . . . . :D
     
  14. leftwing

    leftwing Member

    Dec 9, 1999
    Lake Bluff, Il
    Unless you're from Portugal, the answer is Gallas.
     
  15. Walter3000

    Walter3000 Member+

    Apr 8, 2004
    gainesville, Florida
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does Peter Crouch suck?

    Well we were asking ridiculously obvious questions......
     
  16. Sid Wilson

    Sid Wilson New Member

    Mar 24, 2005
    Perth, Australia
    why does carvahlo start at CB over gallas then?
     
  17. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    Question for the ages.
     
  18. Walter3000

    Walter3000 Member+

    Apr 8, 2004
    gainesville, Florida
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
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    United States
    Appearently Mourinho believes Gallas and Carvalho are both too good to leave out of the starting XI.

    I for one come from the school of thought that says: it isn't as important to put out the best players, as it is to put out the right ones.

    We need to stop trying to force square pegs into round holes(Gallas at fullback, especially when we have good fullbacks), and stop this nonsense.
     
  19. Sid Wilson

    Sid Wilson New Member

    Mar 24, 2005
    Perth, Australia
    i guess mourinho's reply would be that if the defence aint broken then dont fix it, or in other words if the chelsea defence is conceding so little and has done with gallas at fullback for over a year now then why should the defence be tampered with?
     
  20. Teso Dos Bichos

    Teso Dos Bichos Red Card

    Sep 2, 2004
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    Gallas is clearly better. In Ricky wasn't Portugese and from Porto, he wouldn't even be at the club.
     
  21. qazwsx

    qazwsx New Member

    Jul 7, 2003
    Australia
    I don't think being Portuguese had anything to do with it. Being at Porto, perhaps because Mourinho knew what he was getting.

    I think Gallas is a better fit for us. But Carvalho did win European defender of the year award the year Porto won the champions league. So theres no doubting he is quality. Also Chelsea were interesting in signing King from Tottenham at the time, but Carvalho was cheaper, so we signed him instead.

    Whose better, King or Carvalho?. I don't think its even close.
     
  22. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Well, I actually think its closer than you think. Also, King is younger, and English. And a better foil for Terry, who clearly does better with a faster player next to him. We have two slow CBs, one fast, and one with decent speed. I've always felt that when Gallas is not playing CB we lose speed at that position. With King, we'd get that. I think the rumors this past August of our interest in King made sense. Were Carvalho or Gallas to leave, he'd definitely be on my short list. Plus, just like Sol, he has to know he'll have to leave Spurs to actually win anything.
     
  23. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    I only have a problem with Gallas at LB. I'm fine with him being played at RB - he can cross from that side and he's right footed. He's also a much better defender against more physical players than Ferreira.
     
  24. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Karo Viertel
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
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    Germany
    unless you need a goal in the dying minutes against Barca - then defo the Terry /Carvalho double act ;)

    Not saying it was a foul on the keeper, but it was a "very professional" piece of play by Carvalho, and I bet you when it time to pick team sheets, that Jose does not forget that Carvalho came through for him there...

    so maybe he might start more games than the defensive stats should suggest?
     
  25. fbinjamil

    fbinjamil New Member

    Apr 17, 2005
    Amman, Jordan
    Personally i like seeing Gallas play beside Terry because he adds pace and power.
     

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