Rhapsody in Blue: Christian Pulisic at Chelsea

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Balerion, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. beamish

    beamish Member+

    Jul 6, 2009
    That's part of the results, but playing statistically-significantly less time lasts for five months, which is more time than it normally takes to get match fit. The second part of the results is that, conditional on being on the field, passes, possession, and touches go down. This effect didn't go away in the period under observation
     
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  2. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    Mar 17, 2007
    Mass (formerly northern Virginia/Colorado)
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    folks here have yet to learn what “patience” means.
     
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  3. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    Mar 17, 2007
    Mass (formerly northern Virginia/Colorado)
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    do you have any clue what a grade 2 sprain is or what it takes to properly recover?
     
  4. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    Dude, division 3 soccer in the mid 80's was 'shake it off man' haha

    Proud to say my senior year we won our league, beat a bunch of Division 1 schools,
    I got MVP of the league and an offer to play pro indoor soccer at wages that you would laugh your
    ass off at.... (but no, I won't identify the school)
     
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  5. frankburgers

    frankburgers Member+

    May 31, 2016
    Tell that to the Chelsea manager who said 10 days, webmd
     
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  6. frankburgers

    frankburgers Member+

    May 31, 2016
    Tell that to the Chelsea manager who said 10 days…
     
  7. Noriega7

    Noriega7 Member

    Newcastle United
    Dec 27, 2017
    That would make sense to really slow down his rehab if there's somewhat a plan in the work to sell him come January....But I suspect he's probably truly still hurt.

    At the very least, Chelsea will try to bring in a player of similar profile as CP and if they can acquire such a player, it would make it a bit easier to sell CP for even a lost..I don't see any big club paying what Chelsea paid to buy him from Borussia Dortmund.
     
  8. Noriega7

    Noriega7 Member

    Newcastle United
    Dec 27, 2017
    #50458 Noriega7, Oct 15, 2021
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    Yup...the problem is Tuchel clearly expected CP to be back in 10 days..Now, that was right after he got back from International duty more than a month ago.

    This clearly suggest Chelsea doctors either horribly misdiagnosed his ankle sprain or CP is simply a slow healer...or maybe he got reinjured during his rehab.
     
  9. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    Mar 17, 2007
    Mass (formerly northern Virginia/Colorado)
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    do you always go out and buy what Jim Cramer recommends?

    I could care less what Tuchel says when you could clearly see this was a serious sprain. If you have suffered a grade 2 sprain (hint I have) while playing you would realize it takes a certain period of time to properly rehab and come back. 5 - 8 weeks .... but don’t believe me - just keep saying the sky is falling.
     
  10. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    he was in a damn walking boot 10 days was idiotic always except for those of us desperate to believe
     
  11. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    What Tuchel said was:

    "We have two (injury updates)," said Tuchel to reporters. "Kante and Pulisic came back injured. N’Golo was injured in the Liverpool game and suffers a little. We are trying to answer the next question, we try for N’Golo on Tuesday and it looks pretty good. Christian unfortunately came on crutches yesterday, an ankle injury with about ten days."

    About ten days to what? Being able to walk without crutches? Ten days until rehab could start? Ten days until back to training with the team?

    Tuchel English is still a work in progress. Frankly, it was the media that completed his sentence as "ten days out" but he never said it.
     
  12. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Go to 9:52 here:




    "For christian unfortunately he came yesterday on crutches and yeah we have like a... ankle injury with about 10 day."
     
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  13. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, Ronaldinho would be proud. Outside of foot, inside of foot, inside of other foot. I would like to see that kind of dribbling more often, plus other types of dribbling moves.
     
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  14. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    i too am down to see more sick moves
     
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  15. Noriega7

    Noriega7 Member

    Newcastle United
    Dec 27, 2017
    crazy dribbling skillz right there....more of that once he's back fit.
     
  16. USA-Zebuel

    USA-Zebuel Member+

    Mar 26, 2013
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    Colón de Santa Fe
    Just stop replying to that guy. Trolls don’t do well in a vacuum.

    With that said, it is valid to discuss his injury prone status. Just without all the self righteous hyperbole
     
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  17. USA-Zebuel

    USA-Zebuel Member+

    Mar 26, 2013
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    I thought it was sarcastic.
     
  18. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    If Robben could finish half the chances Pulisic makes for himself he would have been the best player in history. I mean, every shot is a chance. Finish half your shots in a career and they probably rename the sport after you.
     
  19. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Come on. Puli had 4 goals in 1735 minutes last season. One goal every 434 minutes.

    Zouma, a CB, had 5 goals in 2027 minutes. One goal every 405 minutes.

    So it's not like he's creating 10 chances per game. Let's be honest. It's more like two per game, and he needs about 9 or 10 to score one. It's basically a goal every five 90-minute periods played.
     
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  20. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    Mar 17, 2007
    Mass (formerly northern Virginia/Colorado)
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it was 6 total goals last year (including CL) ....

    in the UCL it was 2 goals in 420 minutes - 1 per 210.

    and one per 434 in regular season.

    this year it is one goal in 82 minutes playing time.

    a. he plays better in CL than regular season
    b. he needs to be healthy (yes I get the theory that is "fragile").

    watching them playing Brentford ... looks like they still miss his ability to carry the ball forward in the attacking third.
     
  21. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    I think I've noted this before several times. I only focus on league performance, since that is the one which earns a player his starts. In Europe, league is what matters most.

    Yes, winning the Champions is nice, but your 9-5 job, so to speak, is the league.
     
  22. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    Mar 17, 2007
    Mass (formerly northern Virginia/Colorado)
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    you quoted the stats as a response to someone's comment about Robben ... just pointing out that you cherry picked the data to back up your assertion (that Pulisic is not very good) ... you are entitled to your own opinion - just be consistent with the data. A team like Chelsea has their roster not just to support league play but also to support the Champions League. You can't ignore the goals per minutes he provides in the UCL. The whole point is rather moot - he is injured and needs to get healthy.
     
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  23. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    I'm consistent with the data. I always talk leagues here. I don't feel I have to repeat it in every post.

    PS: I'm not saying he's not good, that's a straw man argument. I'm replying to someone who wrote that if Robben had created as many chances as Pulisic does, he'd be considered the best player ever.

    That's not true. Pulisic doesn't create that many chances himself.
     
  24. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    This is pretty funny considering how many Bundesliga games Robben used to sit out in order to be available for the Champions League.
     
  25. NGV

    NGV Member+

    Sep 14, 1999
    Robben scored 2 league goals in 1349 minutes for Chelsea in the season that he turned 23. He didn't hit double digit goals in a top league until age 25 at Bayern.
     

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