Christian Pulisic at AC Milan

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Balerion, Jun 30, 2014.

  1. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
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    Not sure if you are being obtuse, or just misunderstood my point. The comment on spending was rillustrating their quality depth. I recognize the tired tropes of in a one off game or any given match etc, but this season has been grueling and the "collapses" of those lower budget teams shouldn't be all that surprising.
     
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  2. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
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    I expect Chelsea to play prettier soccer once TT has got the players he needs in central midfield.
     
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  3. smokarz

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    Aug 9, 2006
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  4. freisland

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    Jan 31, 2001
    #46254 freisland, May 2, 2021
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    huh? I totally get your point, hence my glib reference to needing a golf style handicap based on salary spending... The range in team spending in the EPL is nuts.

    I was just pointing out that Everton and WH were, just 2 - 4 games ago, well in the hunt. Had either one of them (or both) jumped Chelski there's no doubt they'd be punching above their spending weight but as, say, Arsenal (and to a lesser extent Spurs and Pool), prove salary is not 100% destiny. Sticking with Lampard and some small slip ups on Chelski's part (or a bit more something out of Everton or WH) could have made the last few weeks more interesting, but, aside from Everton beating Arsenal, they and WH have choked. Everton lost to AV, who spend less than 1/2 of what Everton spend. WH losing to Chelsea might be expected but it is also the game that an overachieving team has to win or at least tie. WH couldn't manage it, but they also lost to a not-very-spendy NUFC just a week before (with RC in both games.) That's not the sign of a team that was primed to take advantage of their good season. It looks a bit like choking/not being up for it.

    Not saying teams like WH and Everton don't have an uphill battle late in the season, but Everton esp spends a bit and has tied or lost to teams they needed to get more points from.
     
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  5. Casper

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    Mar 30, 2001
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    This is awesome. As if you can't play Pulisic and Havertz together ... a couple of their better offensive games of the last couple months have come starting Pulisic and Havertz with Mount. Second leg vs. Porto, a big game? He went with those three. Last time they scored more than two goals? He went with those three.

    Also, it ignores the obvious point that Tuchel was resting people - only Mount looks to been have run into the ground among the more running-heavy positions.
     
  6. honest trade

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    It’s funny because the article doesn’t even mention Pulisic - just the headline. It only talks about Kai’s performance.
     
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  7. madvillain

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    It also was largely about what a shit year kai has had. A bad headline even for a UK tabloid.
     
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  8. dspence2311

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    Oct 14, 2007
    Will he be able to do that, or will Marina and Roman go chasing after the prettiest strikers on the market?
     
  9. dspence2311

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    Oct 14, 2007
    Of course you can play CO and KH together, and he should be doing that. The problem is the insistence on Mount being on the front line AND Werner being in the starting lineup. If you require both of those two things to be your operating premises, then that creates the conflict posed by the headline.
     
  10. ebbro

    ebbro Member+

    Jun 10, 2005
    Call me when he's nicknamed Playoff Havertz.

    It was Fulham after all. KH is good, and I think will get better in the EPL, but there's no headache for Tuchel for RM unless it's play Havertz and drop Timo.
     
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  11. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    In that case Tuchel will leave. He can get an equivalent salary elsewhere.
     
  12. eliwood

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  13. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
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    This is the stage were having a manger like Tuchel over Lampard is gonna make all the difference.
     
  14. madvillain

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    Tuchel is awesome. I'm a big fan. He wears out his welcome and is an awkward dude but he's a cleanup artist.
     
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  15. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
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    Managers are like players. They have streaks. Klopp was top dog until not long ago. Now, it's Tuchel's turn.
     
  16. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    He really is the McLovin/Napoleon Dynamite of managers - but you can't argue the results.
     
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  17. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    Too bad Pedro isn't still on the team, then.
     
  18. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    varane OUT for wednesday
     
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  19. felloveranddidanadu

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    Dec 12, 2009
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    The irony is that in terms of direct contrigutions, Werner is having a great year on paper. But his 11g/10a should probably be 30g/10a...
     
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  20. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    And Ramos is IN, apparently.
     
  21. dougtee

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    Feb 7, 2007
    shaping up nicely for those of us who love watching old af center backs
     
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  22. Konut

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    This is so true and really frustrating. Often times it’s Pulisic creating the chances for him. He’s lucky with his stats because he’s the type of player that attempts a shot more often than not, and Pulisic and Chelsea in general have been giving him a lot to work with. I’ve been saying it for a while, but I’m very confident that Giroud would have more goals and assists than Werner if he was given the minutes Werner has gotten.
     
  23. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    He may not be one of the better players, but he might be one of their more important players. I'd argue Mount is Chelsea's most important player, even though he is not their best player. Likewise, even though there are may be one or two strikers at Chelsea better than Werner, it may be that the style of play Tuchel wants necessitates the inclusion of Werner over guys who are likely to score more goals over the course of a season.
     
  24. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    And someone is going to get hurt and taken off the pitch.
     
  25. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT
    Giroud is 2x the CF that Werner is; unfortunate he never had the speed that Werner does.
     

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