The word "mass" used in relation to The Powers That Decide, should make you decidedly clammy. History is littered with acts of supposed "mass" munificence. Excuse me for not sheepishly following those who brought you this malady in the first place.
At least two US companies, Moderna and Inovio Pharmaceuticals, are expected to start their mRNA- and DNA-based vaccine trials next month. I agree with you that 12 months is optimistic, unless the covid situation gets so bad that the gov. waives a lot of trial requirements (compassionate use, like what it does with Gilead's Remdesivir). Problem is vaccination, if it goes bad, will affect a lot more people than a drug treatment. It also takes longer to figure out whether it works or not (vs. drug treatment).
I've been communicating with some friends in Italy, France and Spain and things are really going great for them and they are all very confident, so I'm sure you're right.
It's especially similar in that they easily pass it on... to folks that eventually need respirators, which will be overtaxed.
It's not a question of my "being right". It's a question of whether a blanket statement such as "in a few days we're going to be too busy fighting for our lives" is precisely accurate or non-constructive, sensationalized hyperbole? And yes, I read WE to mean the vastly overwhelming majority of the population who will NOT be fighting for their lives. That is, by no means, to diminish the heart-rending circumstances of those far too many who have (and will) be fatally touched by this horrific virus.
we can all debate the timelines and Moderna and Inovio and Mammoth Pharma and who knows what here. My bet is on remdesivir ... I hope Gilead is cranking production of it for compassionate use on critically ill US patients in ERs.
Early results, with small sample size, is supposedly mixed for Remdesivir as a therapeutic. In animal studies, it supposedly shows prophylactic effects. Of course, if all animal study results are transferrable to human, the cancer problem would have been long solved.
Remdesivir is slow and expensive to produce. Unless Gilead is willing to share the production with dozens of other companies, it's not going to be enough to treat the 1 million+ sick people there's going to be in three weeks. With Ebola it's different, since you get tops 20k infected people at a time, at least so far.
Yes, mixed results. I doubt a generic-type antiviral agent will do much. Work directed toward creating antibodies specific for covid-19 is well under way. I think hope should be focused on having something at least minimally useful by late fall, but expectation no earlier than next spring. All subject to change, of course.
You're right about a cold but colds are like snowflakes, every one is different. You can prevent full onset flu, and lessen its symptoms, by having an antiviral injection.
That's the responsibility of the individuals concerned and the bar owners, not the sports body or the TV companies.
First, let's make it clear that the "mixed results" regarding Remdesivir that you and I referred to came from a paper that has not been peer reviewed. Interview from a doctor who used it gave more hope, but it involved a single case. Eli Lilly and its collaborators are supposed to have lead candidates for antibody therapy. I am sure other companies have candidates too. Hope some pan out.
Or, it's a question of what your understanding of "we" and "fighting" is. Because in the US they aren't isolating. https://apnews.com/fd1743f8b54b1731...n=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP
Thing about pandemics is that everybody becomes responsible for everybody else, disgusting as it sounds. We cannot afford to give people a chance to be stupid, because we'll also be paying for their stupidity.
how can people self-quarantine if missing 1 day of work is detrimental to their overall existence? the problem is lack of govt assistance for decades which Republicans fought against and Democrats compromised on. This is the result of the potential breakdown of our society
Israel is supposedly close to announcing a vaccine according to this 'source'. Seems their government didn't politicize it and actually started working on it months ago. And we aint seen nothing yet here in Murica. The next 2 weeks are going to be a party. Denial catches up to you. Good luck getting that broken leg fixed anytime soon. https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...rus-vaccine/articleshow/74592807.cms?from=mdr
Very very highly unlikely. It does not matter how hard you work on this. The process of making a vaccine and testing it takes time. Even if someone handed out a vaccine in a bottle, you need to vaccinate people and let enough time pass you can tell vaccinated versus the control group. That takes more time than has elapsed (sorry Im a biomedical scientist and I'd like people to understand as much as possible).
Just passing a story along. Honest question for you, Covid-19 has a 19 in it because it was known in 2019, correct? How long does one need?
People keep confusing two things that are entirely different: a vaccine to prevent the infection, and finding an antiviral to cure those already sick. The former is still a year away, maybe a bit less if they jump some trials. The latter, we already have things that prove to work. The problem is that such antivirals tend to be rough on patients, so the old and weak cannot benefit from them without some modifications and special care. Also, the most advanced antivirals are complex and expensive to produce. When you have a pandemic, having something that cures it but is also fast and cheap to manufacture it a must. It's not the same fighting HIV (spreads all over, but goes slow) or Ebola (spreads fast like wildfire, but restricted to relatively small outbreaks) as fighting a cold virus (spreads all over, and fast like hell).
You go to war (fighting COVID19) with the military (antivirals and hospital beds) you have. Our way out of this current mess is extreme social distancing for 30 days and I hope that the antivirals we have are provided to the ERs to help with the critically ill. And that Gilead and others are producing rapidly what they can.