Reyna: Sunderland vs. Manchester United, 8/31 10a (R)

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by BuffloSoldier, Aug 30, 2002.

  1. jamison

    jamison Member

    Sep 25, 2000
    NYC
    What is with Keane? He is just incapable of not being a b@stard at times. The game was over, maybe 30 seconds of stoppage time left, and he clocks McAteer. What did that accomplish? It reminds me of Larry Johnson's quote during the playoffs a couple of years ago "We aren't going to let them chump us. We will out chump them if we have to" How many times does Keane puts his personal chip on the shoulder agenda over the good of the team? Just shameful.

    While a draw at home may be considered a loss, if you are Sunderland today was a good result. They were significantly outplayed, possession was 59-41 to Manu and they had 17 goal attempts to 8, with 7 shots to Sunderland's 3. Drawing the likes of Manu at home is good based on their play today, which was largely uninspiring. Reyna was solid, with some nice touches, but he did lose the ball a couple of times, in dangerous positions. He is their only real motivator out of the middle. Interested to see what Stewart's presence will bring.
     
  2. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not to mention that gives them four points from a possible six this week, against the likes of Leeds United and Man U. Not too shabby...

    No kidding-- and that's considering that Reyna's played better over the course of 90 minutes than this... Not at his best, but still inspires a good result against top-class opposition for his side.
     
  3. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And the winner is......FLO!

    A goal in his debut match and Sunderland grab a precious point.
     
  4. Gordon

    Gordon New Member

    May 6, 2002
    Saskatoon, SK
    Reyna played a big role in the goal. His pass was perhaps a bit too fast but it was taken nicely on the run (it is the Premiership) and the resultant go on goal directly atributable to the pass. The free kick into Beckham's back was bush and worthy of a South American team and I don't think it did him any credit. Overall, not a bad performance, a 6 out of 10 would be a reasonable rating I think.
     
  5. Sinko

    Sinko New Member

    Dec 28, 1999
    xalapa ver mx
    Club:
    Harrisburg City Isl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Could someone please describe for me, who has no FSW anymore, the Reyna ball into Becks' back?

    Was it a free that Becks was trying to stall?
     
  6. GoHawks4

    GoHawks4 Member

    Apr 24, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does anybody have a pic of the Blue Man Utd jersey?
     
  7. bert patenaude

    Apr 16, 2001
    White Plains, NY
    This match will be shown on Fox Sports World on Wednesday at 8 p.m. ET.
     
  8. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ
  9. Slash/ED

    Slash/ED New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Dublin
    Tigger played Keano for a fool, knew what he was doing, drew him in and took an elbow to the face which no doubt will seem sweet when his former team mate is given a hefty suspension.
     
  10. BrianCappellieri

    BrianCappellieri Red Card

    Feb 11, 2002
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  11. odg78

    odg78 Member

    Feb 14, 2001
    North Carolina
    I know Claudio is great but it still blows my mind to read the boards at A Love Supreme, and see all the Sunderland fans just raving over Captain America.
     
  12. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Claudio seems to be emerging as a legit elite player. A player who could make the matchday 16 for any side in the world, and start for all but the top half-dozen teams. This is several fine performances in a row for him.
     
  13. HartwickFan

    HartwickFan Member

    Jul 31, 1999
    Climax, MI
    Club:
    VfR Wormatia 08 Worms
    Nat'l Team:
    Tuvalu
    I thought Reyna had a very inconsistent game. There were times when he just looked plain awful. Particularly in the first fifteen minutes, he was turning the ball over and giving the ball away even when making square passes and back passes. As he sometimes does playing for the nats, he also has an uncanny knack for killing his own team's counter-attack. For a creative mid, he makes a lot of conservative passes -- at times when Sunderland was down, Reyna played as if he was trying to hold a lead.

    That said, Reyna also had moments of sparkling play. He threaded a beautiful pass to set up the goal, and he showed his skill in the midfield, sometimes fighting off more than one blue jersey, and one time dribbling past Veron.
     
  14. BackOtheNet!

    BackOtheNet! New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    So Cal
    My favorite quote from the love whatever.

    MoM though has to be . . . Claudio Reyna - Pure unadulterated orgy of hardcore CLASS.
     
  15. Dave216J

    Dave216J Member

    Aug 1, 2001
    DC
    I've been learning to appreciate this more--it seems to me that Reyna was playing square passes and slowing the game to help the team regain its shape and set up its defense. It may seem counter-intuitive for a team that's behind, but it helped them get established and stop having ManU stroll through midfield. Once they got that done, his passes were more probing and even some over the top long balls, and he was also more willing to drop a ball off and run forward, rather than wait for a square return.

    I still think that there are times that he can kill a promising counter, but I'm growing to appreciate his ability to read the game and choose to support the defensive shape rather than just press forward for an equalizer. Truly makes him a captain, pulling the strings.
     
  16. art

    art Member

    Jul 2, 2000
    Portland OR
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    christ, they look like Cardiff...
     
  17. jamison

    jamison Member

    Sep 25, 2000
    NYC
    I love Reyna, really I do, but I think the Sunderland fans are giving the Yanks a run for our money in the rush to call reyna world class contest. He had a good game, but he's played better. He's not Zidane out there. He is a very good organizing mid, with the ability to play some great balls forward, and he's made great progress over the last 2 years. But let's not get carried away. He plays smart, (usually) passes well, and he makes those around him better. But the remarks about him making the 16 on any team in the world, um, I don't know. He's great, but I think "elite" is a stretch. To me, elite means there are only a handful, maybe 5 or 10, in the world at a position. Zidane, Figo, Becks, they are all elite midfielders. If you had to put a list of mids together, does anyone really put Reyna in the top 10 worldwide? Does any non-american? Again, I love the guy, but I can't do that. Those of us who actually watched the game saw him play well (with a few bad spots), but it wasn't his best effort.
     
  18. Slash/ED

    Slash/ED New Member

    Apr 19, 2002
    Dublin
    To be honest, not many will agree with this, but I think Becks is over rated and Reyna is class and his passing may not look as good on the highlights but causes more trouble to oppisition, if I had to pick one of them, I'd pick Reyna.
     
  19. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you a closet American? ;)
     
  20. prk166

    prk166 BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 8, 2000
    Med City
    woo-hoo!
     
  21. BackOtheNet!

    BackOtheNet! New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    So Cal
    I only said it was my favorite quote. I have always liked him, but then I have been watching the Nats for many years and remember the times when we couldn't string three passes together and never had any of the play in the midfield. I agree with you that he may not be elite but I think he is special. He can certainly play with anybody in the world. And best of all he's a yank and he is showing very well. It's obvious that Sunderland are very happy with him. I hope he keeps it up, sounds as though he has lifted his game to another level, but hard to tell from a webcast.
     
  22. dcufan1984

    dcufan1984 Member

    Feb 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ol peter reid may actually hang on to his job with this form.

    congrats claudio.
     
  23. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    come on you guys. you all know Claudio sucks and if BS hadn't crashed so many times, I'd find the threads to prove it. It's only a matter of days before the international press and the EPL figures out he plays soft, isn't creative, can't go forward, slows the pace, can't play defense, belongs at RB, should sit, can't control his temper, has no commitment, is a cry-baby, is cold, is half the player Mathis is and will disappear in key games. This week could well be the last four points that CR gets in his entire career.
     
  24. BackOtheNet!

    BackOtheNet! New Member

    Jun 6, 2001
    So Cal
    You forgot the smiley's...
     
  25. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    If captaining a World Cup quarterfinalist and making the World Cup all tournament team doesn't signal that Claudio is an elite player, I don't know what does.
     

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