Reyna Out Article

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Sweeper, Oct 29, 2002.

  1. Topo

    Topo Member

    Feb 15, 2001
    Ouch. Here's hoping for a speedy recovery.
     
  2. Scrandal

    Scrandal Member

    Nov 5, 2001
    Charlotte, NC
  3. KDdidit

    KDdidit Member

    Apr 15, 2001
    The Brookfield Zoo
    Thought this meant something totally different...
     
  4. Warzycha

    Warzycha Member

    Apr 22, 2002
    Denver, CO
    No No, Reyna's wife is hot...Don't go there!
     
  5. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Not that there's anything wrong with that.
     
  6. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: No news from the 1st scan

    Reyna out? Swelling has not gone down? What are we talking about?
     
  7. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    Re: Re: No news from the 1st scan

    There are two links on this thread.
     
  8. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Note the time stamps on the articles.

    One is at 7AM(pre-scan) the SAFC article is 3PM (post-scan).
     
  9. The Lieutenant

    Dec 29, 1999
    Lupburg, Bayern
    Don't ask, Don't tell.
     
  10. Dr Jay

    Dr Jay BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 7, 1999
    Newton, MA USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The information on the SAFC site can be interpreted as guardedly good news. If Claudio had an MRI scan today and they are not announcing his ACL is torn that it probably is not. MRI's are pretty good at this diagnosis. Probably not torn cartiledge either - that they would know right off as well.

    My guess is that he had a severe sprain of either his MCL or ACL and that they will not have to do surgery.
     
  11. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Re: No news from the 1st scan

    :rolleyes:

    There are actually 3 theads going on this issue:

    One in the Nats Forum and the other at the end of the Sunderland v Bolton match.

    One of them said that there is still too much swelling to get a good scan and they will try again tomorrow
     
  12. mikesterw

    mikesterw New Member

    May 2, 2001
    Long Island, NY
    How accurate are the scans that are done? Does the swelling have to be almost non-existant or can the scans see through the swelling? I hope for Claudios sake that everything is as good as it can be, re- no surgery. Thanks for any info.
     
  13. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    Lots of swelling generally(not always) indicates serious damage. Last time I blew my left ACL it took damn near a week for my swelling to go down.
     
  14. togneter

    togneter Member

    Mar 30, 2000
    The amount of swelling isn't a great or accurate indicator of the extent of injury, although there is some correllation.

    From reports I've heard, he was in a great deal of pain for a while. This can actually be a good sign (or, more accurately, a sign that the absolute worst hasn't occured). With a complete severing of the ligament (3rd-degree sprain) the pain will subside after a couple of minutes. If it's a partial tear (2nd-degree sprain) the pain will last longer. Both swell quite a bit.

    From my experience as a trainer, this has all the outward indications of a 2nd degree sprain. Still not good, still likely requiring surgery, but also requiring a shorter recovery time.

    Anyway, it doesn't sound good, but I suppose it's best to wait for the MRI.
     
  15. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Guardian is reporting Reyna looks to be out for a ``long term'' with this injury.
     
  16. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Club Med
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think we have enough information to draw any conclusions.
     
  17. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    Agreed, that's why I said generally.

    Why would a 2nd degree sprain take less time to recover than a 3rd degree sprain? The ligament is removed in both cases and replaced with a donor ligament either in the form of a cadaver, patellar ligament, or a piece of the hamstring. Just curious and just wondering if you might explain that for my personal knowledge base. Not trying to start an argument or anything.
     
  18. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We're going to let a little thing like that stop us?HA!
     
  19. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I had a tear of my ACL. I had almost no swelling, and only instintanious pain. I was actually up and walking around, be it with trouble, about 10 minutes later. I actually thought it was a sprain.
     
  20. CrewToon

    CrewToon Member

    Jun 13, 1999
    Greenbrier Farm
  21. togneter

    togneter Member

    Mar 30, 2000
    It was.
     
  22. togneter

    togneter Member

    Mar 30, 2000
    Well, you're right, the difference can be minor. 2nd degree sprains can vary from minor tearing (which require no surgery) to major tearing (which can call for ligament replacement). In the case of the latter,there's not much difference from a 3rd degree.

    The thing with 3rd degree sprains is that the force is often enough to cause damage to other structures (if it's an ACL, for instance, the MCL and meniscus are more likely to get involved).

    Also, there is less that can be done in the way of pre-surgery preparation and exercise, meaning greater atrophy of the muscle, which then takes longer to rebuild. Also, there's often more scar tissue, etc.

    Realy, the difference between a really bad 2nd-degree and a 3rd-degree can be the difference between 6-8 months and 8 months or more, if anything at all. Either way, it's a long road.
     
  23. PSU92

    PSU92 Member

    Feb 27, 1999
    Annandale VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What kind of backwater hospital are they taking him to?

    How can they not know what the injury is?
     
  24. MLSNHTOWN

    MLSNHTOWN Member+

    Oct 27, 1999
    Houston, TX
    It is in England. Does it get more backwater then that.

    It is so funny to hear about all of these serious knee or head or arm or shoulder injuries that happen in soccer, and it is always the same.....

    _________ was taken to a specialist in America.


    My understanding as I tore my ACL is that when you tear it there is swelling. You do have to wait a bit of time for the swelling to go down enough to perform the MRI. The MRI will tell you whether it is torn, sprained, MCL is torn, other knee problems, etc.

    Just wait.

    Big soccer - All about speculation.
     

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