Reyna on EPL Preview Show

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Paul D, Feb 27, 2004.

  1. Paul D

    Paul D New Member

    Aug 6, 2000
    lower wacker drive
    Fox sports world runs an EPL preview/review show every week, and this week, Captain America had a feature interview. He said with all the talent City has, they should be doing better than they are: dangerously close to the relegation zone. He said everything is in place for City to improve & move up the table. Also said their home form in the new stadium (although he did not play in the old one) was an area that needed improvement. He also commented that the EPL is so competitive, if a team is not firing on all cylinders you'll get punished for it, and City has had games where one area of the team or another has not performed. He talked about how much his game has improved playing in Europe with the pressure and high quality of play. Said there was nothing comparable in the US for soccer.
     
  2. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    Eurosnob! :)
     
  3. wjarrettc

    wjarrettc Member
    Staff Member

    Oct 1, 2002
    Cliffs of Insanity
    Club:
    Carolina Railhawks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, just saw this too and I'd have to say he could have been a little more diplomatic about the quality of the MLS. Someday he might have to work there! :)

    Looks like the show re-airs at Midnight EST and again Saturday morning 11:30 EST just before the ManUtd v. Fulham game.
     
  4. BarbS

    BarbS New Member

    Feb 24, 2002
    Portland, OR
    I really don't think CR was direspectful to MLS in any way. He just acknowledged the fact that the day in day out competition in the European leagues is unlike what it currently is here. And I think virtually all of the US players who have played abroad agree that that kind of environment improves players.
     
  5. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Did he happen to mention how much 2+2 equals?
     
  6. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    funny, I thought he had never played professionally in the USA.So either he has lost his mind or his is comparing his expeiences as a college player and as a pro. So the pros are better than college? Gee, what a revelation that is. Call the New York Times with that story.
     
  7. striker

    striker Member+

    Aug 4, 1999
    Re: Re: Reyna on EPL Preview Show

    I have never set foot on American Samoa. But I have learned through talking to some of my American Samoan soccer friends that the level of play in American Samoa is rather poor. I wonder if I should form on opinion on this topic.
     
  8. art

    art Member

    Jul 2, 2000
    Portland OR
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Reyna on EPL Preview Show

    I thought about that too but c'mon it's not like it's a stretch to say that the game in England is on a whole different level than it is here. All you need to understand that is a pair of eyes.
     
  9. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Re: Re: Reyna on EPL Preview Show

    And hardly ever plays with MLS professionals...

    I think MLS is underrated by a lot of non-American soccer players and fans, but it's always hysterical that when a guy like Mathis goes to Germany and says "the game is faster" people think he's just making it up. Or when a guy like Reyna makes an outlandish statement like there is nothing comparable to the EPL in North America, someone can try to make some sort of case that statement is out of line.

    Ok, what in North America IS like the EPL? Nascar?
     
  10. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Club Med
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Re: Reyna on EPL Preview Show

    It is interesting to note that Reyna has never played in a US league.
     
  11. USAdude2010champs

    USAdude2010champs New Member

    Feb 7, 2004
    St. Paul, MN
    I used to have a lot of respect for Reyna, after all the dude is prolly the most successful Yank to ever play soccer overseas since he went to the Sunderland Mackems and now with the Manchester City Blues, but the dude has no right to talk smack on MLS if he has never played here, he sounds like the worst of all eurosnobs and he looks stupid.
     
  12. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
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    to say that the Prem is better than MLS is obvious, but the point is, he has never played in MLS, so what makes him qualified, or even especially knowledgable about this subject. But having said that, I watch a lot of Prem games, and while all are fast, very few of them are good.Basically everyone plays at a breakneck pace, but 3 teams, Chelsea, Arsenal and ManU, can play good soccer at that pace.There rest are running around like madmen on cocaine. I would guess( merely a guess) that on average, more passes are strung together in MLS than in the Prem. The Prem is still better, but I have to say that there are many,many bad games in the Prem.Really ugly, unwatchable soccer.
     
  13. Short Corner

    Short Corner Member

    Jun 28, 2001
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    Hilarious. You cannot make this stuff up.

    Maybe if Claudio posted here more often, he would be more entitled to an opinion?
     
  14. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    sometimes the truth hurts. I don't know how you can compare playing infront of 60,000 at Old Trafford at any point in the season, playing for your job because you KNOW there is a player on the bench who is there waiting to snap it up should you falter, to playing front of 10K in Chicago in what amounts to an exhibition because you have an 80 percent chance of making the playoffs no matter what happens. I'm an NFL junkie but I would say that there is more pressure playing EPL than the NFL because of Relegation and the dog fight for European soccer.
     
  15. appoo

    appoo Member+

    Jul 30, 2001
    USA
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Reyna on EPL Preview Show

    what makes you qualified on the subject? More specifically, what makes you more qualified than Claudio Reyna on the subject of soccer?

    and the reason more passes are strung together in MLS is because they don't play pressure defense in MLS like they do in Europe. Its almosyt impossible considering #1. The weather, #2. the level of defensive midfielders and man marking defenders in our league.

    Ever wonder why our MLSers struggle against bigtime opponent? Thats why right there.
     
  16. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Reyna on EPL Preview Show

    Ok, People Who Can Talk About the EPL v. MLS -

    Joe Max-Moore,
    Tim Howard,
    Brad Friedel
    Stern John
    Gazza
    Carlo Bocanegra
    Brian McBride
    Eddie Lewis
    Jovan Kirovski
    Any Twit On Bigsoccer.

    Come on guys. It is an indefensible and absurd position to say Reyna can't speak about MLS v EPL because he has never played on an MLS team. Especially when what he is saying is essentially the soccer version of "The Sun is bigger than the Moon." I mean, Reyna has played countless games in camp, Q's, even the Gers tour of Fla with, against, watching MLS players. He knows MLS quality and EPL. Do you think any other of the above would contradict him? I mean, come on.
     
  17. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Reyna on EPL Preview Show

    The rest are running around like madmen on cocaine
     
  18. RoverMax

    RoverMax Member

    May 4, 2003
    NYC
    Club:
    Blackburn Rovers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Reyna is right that MLS isn't comparable to EPL. The fans are different, the speed of the game is different, the quality of players is different, etc. I don't think he is disrespecting the MLS, but it is quite obvious that EPL is a lot better than MLS.
     
  19. coldfusion

    coldfusion Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    SoFla / SoCal
    Re: Re: Re: Reyna on EPL Preview Show

    Laughed so hard I spit up my beer.
     
  20. coldfusion

    coldfusion Member

    Dec 3, 2003
    SoFla / SoCal
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Reyna on EPL Preview Show


    Did it again.
     
  21. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
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    the point is he is no more or less qualified than any other pro soccer player. How does he know about MLS.If you noticed or bothered to read what I wrote, I started by saying that the fact that the Prem is better than MLS is not in dispute.
     
  22. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Reyna on EPL Preview Show

    Bruce Arena is quoted in this months SA as saying the Prem is a lot of fun to watch though he is not sure many of the games are that good. I would agree.
     
  23. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Reyna on EPL Preview Show

    it helps if you read what was written and what I was responding to:
    "He talked about how much his game has improved playing in Europe with the pressure and high quality of play"
    my comment was that his improvement in Europe was based on his never playing pro in the US. So he was comparing college soccer in the US to high level Euro leagues.
     
  24. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Ok, come on Bruce. Deep breath on this one. I feel a little silly even wading in one more time as it just makes no sense, but are you really saying that a guy who has been in camp with the USMNT every year for 10 years, has played with just about every decent American player from Caliguiri to Convey, has seen how guys have developed, from LD, Lewis, Heyduk, Pope, Kirovski, JOB to McBride to Bazza, Mo Ross, Lovenkrands and McCann, can't have an opinon over whether Europe or MLS is better for his or anyone's soccer development. I mean, he could even be wrong and perhaps having come back to MLS in 96 and leaving Wolfsburg in the dust would have made him a better A middie, or a genius RB. But to say that he somehow needs to recuse himself, Scalia-like from this conversation, simply because he only spent ten years of his life playing with MLSers and not actually played in MLS seems a bit, uh, reactionary to me.
     
  25. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Reyna on EPL Preview Show

    Chelsea, Arsenal and Man Utd are three of the best teams in the whole of Europe. The fact that they are a lot better than the rest of the Premiership in no way means that the rest play crap soccer. This simply belies reality. There are many many excellent teams in the Premiership, as is evidenced by the fact that a team as talented as Reyna's Man City are scuffling around the relegation zone.
     

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