News: Revs 2020 Season

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  1. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    All true ... but, of the 3 DPs, Gil was the worst one to lose - by a good margin.

    It was a critical vulnerability that we were so dependent on one single player - but we were/are. Hopefully LN changes that, we'll see.
    The roster-building is one thing that suffered under Burns, but the other critical thing was player development. We now have about 3 years worth of young players just this year getting significant development work, not too mention those that got lost (ex., Herivaux) because we didn't have that.

    As we've seen throughout the Revs' history, if a young player can find a place in the lineup quickly, they tend to develop and thrive (ex., Larentowicz, Noonan). If they don't, they stagnate and never establish themselves (ex., Herivaux, Steve Neuman, Marshall Leonard, ...).
     
  2. tsb11

    tsb11 Member+

    United States
    May 31, 2018
    You totally disagree with my statement that Lee will be a key contributor for the revs.... by saying he will be a key contributor for the revs? I'm confused
     
  3. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Bayern München
    United States
    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  4. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
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    New England Revolution
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  5. RevsRule

    RevsRule Member+

    NE Revs, LAFC
    Jun 9, 1999
    N. Eastern, Mass
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Im sorry... I misread your original statement as saying they would not be key contributors. My bad. As I said earlier... They will be key contributors, especially Lee. He has to know this is his last shot in MLS.
     
  6. abecedarian

    abecedarian Member+

    Mar 25, 2009
    SSSomerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
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    United States
    I guess I would argue that making essentially incremental improvements is about the same as standing pat. While, in isolation, the acquisition of a McNamara or a Manneh looks like progress, it really isn't. (Though of course it depends what they were acquired for -- backup/depth, or to be starters.)

    Nguyen is a bit of a different case. He's a guy I would certainly applaud the Revs for taking a flyer on, given his excellence in the past. But every player in the world has a sell-by date, and Nguyen is presumably approaching his, if he hasn't passed it. I'd love to see him have a renaissance (Revaissance?), but I think we'd be foolish to place all our hopes on it.

    And yes, other MLS teams have made more savvy additions that the Revs missed out on -- primarily by fishing in Argentinian waters.
     
  7. tsb11

    tsb11 Member+

    United States
    May 31, 2018
    Player costs:
    Lee Nguyen- 4th rd pick and up to $50k (so essentially free)
    Tommy Mac- Wilfried Zahibo and his intl roster spot until EoY. Received $175k in deal
    Kekutah Manneh- the intl roster slot vacated by Caicedo until EoY. (So essentially free)

    On a purely cost analysis these are great deals. On a talent analysis, Manneh and Tommy are career MLS rotation guys, but so is the majority of the revs roster. From an initial performance analysis Tommy has been great. Manneh hasnt played, so maybe thats not a great deal (and adds more volume to Bruce's opinion of Justin Rennicks).

    All in all the deals are A+, even if the overall impact is low-medium
     
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  8. abecedarian

    abecedarian Member+

    Mar 25, 2009
    SSSomerville
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    You make a good point, and particularly in the case of Zahibo, where there was a bit of addition by subtraction.

    I might quibble with the assertion that McNamara has been great. He's been okay, but particularly in the Chicago match, aside from his assist, his passing map was really unimpressive.
     
  9. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    I think McNamara gets short-changed on stats because of his intangibles. He brings an intensity and energy - and it sure looks to me like that's rubbing off on some of the guys around him (I'm thinking Bunbury, more than anyone else).
     
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  10. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Major League Soccer releases schedule, TV for remainder of 2020 regular season
    September 22, 2020
    2:00PM EDT
    MLSsoccer staff

    Revs last 10 games:
    Code:
    GM DATE . . . OPPENENT . . . . . .TIME(ET)LOCATION
    14 SUN Sep 27 @ DC United . . . . 7:00 PM Audi Field
    15 SAT OCT 03 Nashville SC. . . . 7:30 PM Gillette Stadium
    16 WED OCT 07 Toronto FC . . . . .7:30 PM Gillette Stadium
    17 SUN OCT 11 @New York City FC . 7:00 PM Red Bull Arena   
    18 WED OCT 14 @Montreal Impact . .7:30 PM Red Bull Arena   
    19 SUN OCT 18 Philadelphia Union .7:30 PM Gillette Stadium
    20 SAT OCT 24 @Nashville SC . . . 8:30 PM Nissan Stadium
    21 WED OCT 28 @New York Red Bulls 7:00 PM Red Bull Arena   
    22 SUN NOV 01 DC United . . . . . 7:30 PM Gillette Stadium
    23 SUN NOV 08 @Philadelphia Union 3:30 PM @Suburu Park 
    
     
  11. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
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    United States
    Top 8 in the West make the playoffs.

    Seeds 7-10 in the East will have a play-in round.
     
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  12. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
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  13. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    Matt Reis was a great keeper for us for a long time, but he, along with Shuttleworth and just about every other keeper we've had would occasionally just whiff and allow one that everyone could agree should have been stopped. Yet, with Turner, I can't even remember if/when that's happened.
     
  14. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    I was listening to ExtraTimeRadio podcast and Doyle is a big fan of Turner. This article recaps what he said:

    Matt Turner ahead of Zack Steffen as US national team goalkeeper? Matt Doyle explains
    September 30, 2020
    9:17AM EDT

     
  15. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
  16. NFLPatriot

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    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
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    United States
    Revolution’s match vs. Philadelphia Union rescheduled for October 19
    Posted: October 11, 2020
    revolutionsoccer.net

    I assume this is due to Patriots-Broncos game being moved to 10/18.
     
  17. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    Makes sense.

    But, also interesting, that since live attendance is not currently a factor, there's an amazing amount of flexibility in scheduling. The bigger priority in scheduling is now totally TV viewership. MLS has stuck to traditional scheduling times for the most part up to now, but they don't need to.
     
  18. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    Carles Gil is back in training.

    So you're telling me there's a chance. YEAH! :thumbsup:
     
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  19. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
  20. A Casual Fan

    A Casual Fan Member+

    Mar 22, 2000
    1319020678776000515 is not a valid tweet id
     
  21. ktsd

    ktsd Member

    Jul 20, 1999
    Bethel, CT, USA
    It took me a few extra beats to not misunderstand the positive message not unhidden in the double negatives.
     
  22. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    And he's still no longer on the not medically cleared to play list. ;)
     
  23. Revs in 2010

    Revs in 2010 Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Roanoke, VA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
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    United States
    He was clearly not unable to play tonight.
     
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  24. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
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    United States
    Random observation: of the bottom 4 teams in the East, the Revs played DC United 4 times (claiming 10 of 12 pts), but never played the other 3: ATL, MIA, or CIN.
     
  25. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
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    United States

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