Revolution Stadium Groundbreaking "12-24 months" Part XVI

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  1. Brian in Boston

    Brian in Boston Member+

    Jun 17, 2004
    MA & CA, USA
    After the sometimes confrontational back-and-forth that City of Boston officials engaged in with Wynn Gaming over jurisdictional matters surrounding development of the Encore Boston Harbor resort, I would think that the powers-that-be behind Everett’s push to play host to such a stadium will make sure that the facility’s footprint falls well within the borders of their municipality. Further, given the long, twisting, and heretofore unsuccessful quest the Krafts have undertaken to get a soccer-specific home built for the Revolution, I’d say that they’d be of a like mind on the matter.
     
  2. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kraft held preliminary discussions with Everett Mayor Carlo DeMaria about land in the town which is three miles outside of Boston. The Massachusetts House of Representatives is looking to waive rules that could make the Everett land attractive. The legislation would exempt the 43-acre industrial parcel that straddles the Everett and Boston line from environmental requirements

    https://sportstalkflorida.com/socce...1QmmP5ht82d3qlTDc5LvOTMsEDMUJmJVWcxTRjZ1j1GIc
     
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  3. Tea Men Tom

    Tea Men Tom Member

    Feb 14, 2001
    Two thoughts on this - actually 3. Everett is not run by your typical MA politicians in that the admin there is very pro business and the trickle down effects have been transforming that city. There probably is a ton of contamination in that locality but industrial use there is never returning and if they want to actually use the land for something that enhances the community, it will need to be cleaned up.

    As far as settling for Everett, it could be that Mayor Wu's admin may be a lot more open to the benefits of a soccer facility in Boston than any recent administrations. The problem are the cost of the land and accessibility. I'm sure they could find.

    Back to Everett, if significant help is needed at the state level, Baker is going to be a lot easier to do business with than Maura Healey, would be my guess so moving quickly is likely the goal.
     
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  4. MM66

    MM66 Member+

    Mar 9, 2009
    Brookline, MA
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    They'll get brownfields money for the cleanup. Legally speaking, you can't build anything there without removing the contaminated soil. I would expect Healey to deliver those funds just as readily as Baker. Stiffing a fairly diverse city looking to develop some of the biggest environmental hazards in Greater Boston is not a good look.

    I wouldn't call DeMaria "pro business" so much as "morally flexible," but that works for the Revs' purposes. The cachet of having a pro sports team in town probably would help rehabilitate Everett's image. I think there's going to be a big clean energy hub that forms there too, and a sports/entertainment spot that's not a casino would be a draw for potential commercial tenants (plus, add in the walking bridge over to Assembly Square).

    DeMaria might be willing to use local bonds or issue some kind of restaurant tax to help fund a stadium. Giving Kraft money/land is what Boston, Somerville and Revere have refused to do. Everett's far less likely to draw, let alone hold, that line.

    Also, if Everett balks, where's Kraft going to go? Weymouth? Might as well just stay in Foxborough at that point. Both sides might have strong motivation to cut this deal.
     
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  5. Tea Men Tom

    Tea Men Tom Member

    Feb 14, 2001
    MM66 - your assessment is much more on point than mine. When I said pro business I was attempting to be kind, lol. I would be interested however to hear Michelle Wu's position on this type of project. She's all about diversity, and soccer certainly is that. Plus she didn't come up through the ranks of Boston politics the way her two most recent predecesors did.
     
  6. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Geeze Louise, you sound like a Regan Republican! :D But in this instance this Democrat hopes you're right! :):D
     
  7. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    Funny you mention Weymouth. The one thing Weymouth has over Foxboro is regular train service. They also have a preapproved stadium footprint. Actually, they slapped up an aluminum stadium there as a temporary home for the Free Jacks. Worked out pretty well until their eventual move to Veteran's Stadium in Quincy. I say that fully realizing that the Free Jacks were a much smaller example of a sporting event there.
     
  8. Tea Men Tom

    Tea Men Tom Member

    Feb 14, 2001
    LOL I do kind of lean that way. However....I've also observed past attempts to get stadiums build around here, from John Harrington's attempt to build a new Fenway, to the drama of getting a new Garden built, to Kraft's having to sign an agreement to move the Pats to Hartford before the legislature finally agreed to fund road improvements on Rt 1 so he could get Gillette built. There's a long history in this town - it ain't easy - and the issues usually come from the pols - just about all of which are from the left side of the aisle. Granted a few were corrupt (Finneran, Flaherty etc) and in the case of the waterfront I think it wasn't so much Menino as other developers having his ear.
     
  9. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
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    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    100% agree!
     
  10. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    RIP Chicago Fire
    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
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    I think you mean a "Reagan" Republican. Regan was Reagan's Chief of Staff after James Baker.

    A new stadium for the Revs would also help Pawtucket fill their recently approved USL stadium. I'd imagine that having a D1 team only 20 minutes away would hurt attendance. USL teams do well when they fill gaps in MLS' geography, not when they reside within it.
     
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  11. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    Yeah, I guess it's been that many years. I did live through the Reagan era but I'd forgotten. If I offended I truly am sorry.

    Also, agree on the stadium comments.
     
  12. rkupp

    rkupp Member+

    Jan 3, 2001
    I get the feeling that almost no one really remembers Reagan - Dems, Reps or independents.
     
  13. rkane1226

    rkane1226 Member+

    Apr 9, 2000
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    United States
    I remember him as the OTHER Republican with a fixation on walls:

    “Mr. Gorbachev open this gate. Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!”
     
  14. Feldspar

    Feldspar Member+

    Nov 19, 1998
    Boston, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    I thought of a different Regan.

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  15. teskicks

    teskicks Member+

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    Jan 14, 2002
    Wrentham, MA
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  16. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
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    They meant 12-24 years. It’s almost the 12 year mark, so we have a nice and short 12 year window now!
     
  17. Argyle

    Argyle Member

    Jan 31, 2002
    Plymouth, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
  18. ktsd

    ktsd Member

    Jul 20, 1999
    Bethel, CT, USA
  19. Argyle

    Argyle Member

    Jan 31, 2002
    Plymouth, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think it's that simple.

    The state has a page on its website about designated port areas.
    https://www.mass.gov/service-details/czm-port-and-harbor-planning-program-designated-port-areas

    This paragraph gives a pretty good idea of what's allowed: "DPAs have features important for water-dependent industrial uses—such as commercial fishing, shipping, and other vessel-related marine commercial activities—and/or for manufacturing, processing, research, and production activities that require marine transportation or access to large volumes of water."

    They probably need to have the DPA designation lifted and then see how they can work with Chapter 91.
     
  20. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
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    United States
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  21. TOAzer

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    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
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    When we stand proudly alone, with our stadium far from any metropolis, so insistently marching to the beat of a drum no one else even hears, will we then-finally- be the kewl kidz on the block?
     
  22. propnut27

    propnut27 Member

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    Germany
    Mar 15, 2009
    Naples Fl.
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    Sadly, Boston is just not very interested in soccer. That said, the Vegas line for opening day at Revolution Stadium remains the 12th of Never!
     
  23. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting to see that Boston is a finalist for an NWSL expansion team. Obviously, an urban SS stadium would be a huge boost to their bid:

    Jennifer Epstein, founder of Juno Equity and the daughter of Celtics co-owner Robert Epstein, is the investment group’s controlling owner, with Anna Palmer, a general partner at Flybridge Capital; Stephanie Connaughton, an angel investor, advisor and mentor with early stage start-ups; and Ami Kuan Danoff, co-founder and CFO of the Women’s Foundation of Boston, as managing partners.

    Both Epstein and [Boston Mayor] Wu emphasized no agreement has been reached on where the prospective team would play, but White Stadium in Franklin Park appears to be the leading candidate. Wu mentioned East Boston’s Memorial Stadium as well.


    Neither of those stadiums is particularly ideal from a location standpoint. White Stadium, at least in photos, looks to be natural grass. East Boston is an artificial surface.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/12...ing-nwsl-team-back-boston-expansion-finalist/ (behind Globe paywall)
     
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  24. superkeeper

    superkeeper Member

    Jul 9, 2003
    USA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don’t know anything about white stadium but East Boston is terrible turf with run down facilities. That would be below minor league unless they do significant upgrades. The lights are also really poor.
     
  25. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    White Stadium is similar if not exact to East Boston. But it's a better location. East Boston's is terrible. It's cramped and there's constant noise from airplanes.

    I find it funny that suddenly the Boston government is enthusiastic with a woman's pro team proposal for White Stadium, whereas they never were with the Revs. That said, maybe it's possible for a SSS on the Franklin Park site for both teams. I think that would be great, but of course they'd have to tear down White Stadium and build a new modern stadium on that site.
     

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