Revolution Stadium groundbreaking "12-24 months" Part IV

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  1. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. Kraft has sunk hundreds of millions into the Revs and the league to slow the growth of soccer.

    Come on, guys! It's so obvious.

    [​IMG]
     
  2. RevsFanDan

    RevsFanDan Member

    May 24, 2005
    North Shore
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which is exactly my point on the indifferent/Apathy versus Effort to Squash the Game..

    Honestly, does it really matter?

    Both are equally damning..!

    starving a dog until it's too weak and dies or kicking it down the stairs to make that end sooner...

    A passionate effort to go spend $250 million on a stadium for 20k or so thousand people, definitely isn't on the top of Kraft's agenda!

    And in actuality I've always said...He DOESN'T need a new stadium to CARE and make this TEAM a TOP MLS Squad, both on and off the field.
     
  3. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Cool picture. Those sarcastic images usually strengthen an argument.

    He hasn't sunk any money. He has seen a return on his investment over the years. You can try to parse the words all you want, and post "funny" pictures, but it doesn't mean that any of you theories are any more/less valid. Other than being condescending, you have brought basically nothing to this discussion.
     
  4. RevsFanDan

    RevsFanDan Member

    May 24, 2005
    North Shore
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now, THAT is something I'd LOVE to see proven!!??

    And is that HIS OWN MONEY...? or the reinvesting of Revenue that he generated by 16 of US buying tickets, merchandise and concessions?

    Considering 16 years of even averaging 10-15k over the entire time..plus money from parking/merchandise/concessions..I can't see that it cost Kraft much to run the Revs.

    And if HE invested even 1/10th of what Phil Anschutz did in propping up 8/10ths of the League back in the day..I'd be very surprised!!

    But, heck..Nothing about Krafty would surprise me.
     
  5. RevsFanDan

    RevsFanDan Member

    May 24, 2005
    North Shore
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This..A Billion Times this..and throw in an Anschutz!! :)
     
  6. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Don't forget about the SUM money he gets from gate receipts for all the international friendlies and European club summer tours. How many other NFL owners have another product that fills their stadium in off months?

    This notion that he has "sunk" his own money into anything is a joke. Sure, he made an investment, and over the years, the investment has seen a return.

    It's funny that one the one hand someone will call him a savvy businessman, and on the other they will say he "sunk" his money into the team and league.
     
  7. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    LDD, I meant to positive rep you. my bad. I don't hand out that neg rep nonsense. I had a brainfart.
     
  8. UPStruk

    UPStruk Member

    Jan 28, 2008
    boston
  9. sputnikorbust

    sputnikorbust Member

    Apr 9, 2011
    Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    your link was a little wonky for me, but found it here http://www.transburbia.org/2011/12/...aiming-highway-territory-on-the-urban-fringe/

    clearly i am totally missing the part(s) about the MLS stadium
     
  10. abecedarian

    abecedarian Member+

    Mar 25, 2009
    SSSomerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. zarcone9

    zarcone9 Member

    Sep 17, 2004
    bruccaline
    Club:
    US Città di Palermo
    Nat'l Team:
    Aruba
    I think Kraft just wants to break even on the revs while the team developes and acquires new talent in a couple of years. kraft could buy rinoldinho, and that would make him lose 15 million a year with 35000 in attendance. You cry babies should support your team, an you should encourage others to attend games. The stadium is fine, the security is fine, and let Kraft not have to lose money every single season.
     
  12. Kraft Out

    Kraft Out Member+

    Aug 2, 2010
    Boston
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    lmao
     
  13. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yay, more people telling fans how they should support!
     
  14. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I try, almost every day, to get new people to come to games. But its like bringing a knife to a gunfight, even among soccer fans. If we had Ronaldinho (Hell, I'd settle for Far Ronaldo), I'd have a much easier time of it
     
  15. KaptPowers

    KaptPowers Member

    Dec 29, 2003
    Arlington, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, let's do the team's job for them- we should bring people. They shouldn't have to carry the burden of being professional enough to attract fans on their own! The horror! The last sentence is pure comedy gold and I thank you for it- haven't been to a game lately have you?

    PS who says he's losing money?
     
  16. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You'd know if you came to a few
     
  17. patfan1

    patfan1 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 19, 1999
    Nashua, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]

    Awesome! :D
     
  18. RevsLiverpool

    RevsLiverpool Member+

    Nov 12, 2005
    Boston
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Post of the year
     
  19. KaptPowers

    KaptPowers Member

    Dec 29, 2003
    Arlington, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I went to all I could stomach this year, one (RSL). You'd remember it better if you hadn't busy drunkenly yelling at Garrett about obscure State House rules of order, chief. :D

    I'll say this, from how it's looking I'll be watching 2012 from my couch with Scott Eberhart and Eric Lessard, two other Maine Revs fans (I think we're the only fans here) pushed away...
     
  20. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Garrett didn't even read Demeter's Manual of Parliamentary Law and Procedure!! He knew he was wrong!
     
  21. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    News from sources close to the Kraft/Casino thing: The report is that Kraft is going to try to leverage 'backing off' of challenging DeLeo/Suffolk Downs for a Casino in exchange for some public money to build a Stadium at Brickbottom. Evidently The Speaker is looking for business support to extending the Green Line, so while it's a win-win, DeLeo wins twice.
     
  22. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If this is true, it could be another brilliant quid pro quo poker move by Krafy. Much like the Hartford double down bet. It would be awesome, but, I have trouble getting my arms around the idea of Kraft going to those lengths for his wretched stepchild.
     
  23. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But if the Commonwealth is going to build him a concert venue, I don't think he'll mind if we play some soccer on it sometimes.
     
  24. Minutemanii

    Minutemanii Member+

    Dec 29, 2005
    Abington MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Imagine Benny blowing out his ACL on a rut left behind by a stage stanchion?
     
  25. Achowat

    Achowat Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Revere, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Better then slowly destroying it playing every week on Plasti-Grass. You can, y'know, fix ruts.
     

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