Alert: Revelations Cup November 6th 2021

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by EXALIFTIN, Sep 1, 2021.

  1. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I thought it was a relatively easy save he made look hard by not parrying it enough.
     
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  2. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    I only saw a few minutes at the end of the half, but it didn't look awful, at least compared to what the scoreline says.

    I'm not usually one for tons of excuses, lord knows we have enough here on these boards, but I think this team had what, 1 training session together? Pretty awful job by USSF (again), but the talent didn't seem that bad out there.
     
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  3. ogshortstufff

    ogshortstufff Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Aug 8, 2020
    Aaronson put in a decent shift, not sure why he's in the midfield but he's been the lone bright spot. I think McGlynn (decent moments here and there) would look a lot more comfortable in a defensively-stable setup.
     
  4. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    Brazil is letting the USA possess the ball a lot in the attacking third. Is that by design? Weird to watch Brazil play this way.
     
  5. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yank El Capitan (Leyva). Bring in Edelman for him. Have him sit in front of the back 4. Yes, he is more mobile than Leyva & McGlynn. Though this roster wasn't supplied w/ gifted athletes or defenders there. You work w/ what you got.

    Take out Walls, who is getting circles run around him. Really helps to be left-footed as a footballer. You're going to get opportunities you wouldn't otherwise. Henry was much higher rated in the metrics.

    Have an actual striker up top, whether that be Sanogo or Cowell. Cowell's struggled on the wing, so you could switch positions or take him out. But we're hurting there and having nobody to get on the end of balls in the middle. We've had chances to, but it's a black hole.

    Clark in CM would up the mobility too and set him up better for success. Play Aaronson on the wing.

    Don't have to build out the back on dead balls. Can do it in the run of play. And hopefully they win balls more up high to make their lives easier. A different setup would help.

    They could still be second best, but individual players and the team should be set up to succeed.

    And we could build a time machine to higher a manager earlier and have a couple camps during the pandemic. But they cheaped out.
     
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  6. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    It looks really bad. The midfield is stretched…when the ball is in the midfield. The defense is stretched…in their own final third. The offense consists of Sealy and Aaronson. Cowell is playing like a literal pit bull. Probably one of the worst looking youth teams I have seen us field.
     
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  7. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're not letting the US do it. The US are just dedicated to playing possession. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

    From a cost-benefit perspective, it hasn't worked overall because of TO's from deep, lack of ideas/sound touches in the final 3rd, and no striker.
     
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  8. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    As a U.S. fan I want all our teams to do well. But it's also helpful to be inoculated with a dose of reality every now and again. Yeah, they haven't practiced, new coach, etc. But the movements, passing, dribbling, etc. of the Brazilian players show what we really are- overhyped wannabes. There's no doubt that the structure for producing good players in the U.S. has improved at the older ages. But what our kids do at the very youngest ages is a limiting factor in producing the sort of highly skilled players we see in Brazil. Until there is improvement at the youngest ages we will continue to churn out serviceable but far from outstanding players.
     
  9. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    It also looks like most of the team lost confidence when Brazil scored. They’re playing scared.
     
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  10. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    3-0 at the half.

    It hasn't been as bad as the score suggests. The keeper has maybe made like 2 saves, and one was as easy as it gets. It could absolutely be a lot worse. Brazil has capitalized on their chances very well. They have probably 5 shots on goal, and scored on 3 of them. Thats not domination. I suspect the possession numbers aren't domination either.

    There are problems though.

    The attack doesn't work. It's almost all bad. Cowell is trying, but none of it is working. Every time he tries something, he turns it over. Sealy is probably the best offensive threat we had in that half, but he can't do much because he always finds himself on his right down the left-wing once he's in a good position, and that disrupts the play. Aaronson is trying and hasn't been terrible, but not too good either. Clark is lost. He's not a false nine, and has had very few touches. He's not in the game.

    The lack of any sustained success trying to attack Brazil is putting enormous pressure on our defense. I think they aren't holding up that badly, if you consider what's happening and not only the score. Athletically through the middle, we questioned if Leyva-McGlynn was good enough. So far, they haven't been too bad. Leyva has been better than McGlynn. Leyva looks good. He's made like one mistake, and it resulted in nothing. He has 4-5 tackles, and switched play pretty well. McGlynn had probably one bad play, a very uncharacteristic back pass, but it's hard to say he's been much better than mediocre when he's at fault for a PK. Aside from that, he's holding up.

    Che and Wiley look bad. Che has been the worst player so far. He's diving in every time this Brazilian LW tries attacking in. Stand him up, and hold your position. Che has been the better of the two fullbacks going forward. He has some ideas, but defensively, he's constantly out of position and is missing every time he tries for a big interception. Wiley was beat for the first goal pretty badly with his positioning. Since then, he hasn't been that bad. I wouldn't say he's had a good game so far, but he's not been that noticeable since the goal, which when you're down 3-0 isn't the worst thing.

    Walls has pretty okay. He committed a penalty, but thats on McGlynn. He simply does not have the quickness once he's put in that position to recover. Aside from that penalty, which wasn't his fault, I have had no complaints with his play. He's made a few nice defensive plays, and some nice passes. Neal has been our best player so far. He's been very solid defensively, and has started some nice attacks with passes through a few lines.

    Slonina, a little weak. He was slow to react on the first goal. The second goal, it was a PK right down the middle hit low. Why couldn't he kick out his legs? Third goal not too blame. He also had a save off the post that I'm not sure if it was an error that he didn't direct it far away from the post or a nice save that he saved a shot that then went off the post. Probably some of both. He should've pushed it away past the post, but it was probably going in if he misses it entirely.
     
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  11. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    The US has plenty of skilled players out there. The difference is between the ears, in my opinion. The feet are fine.

    Another difference is that Brazil’s athletes are more mature. Aside from Cowell who looks like a 30 year old man, only Sealy, Che, Slonina, and Leyva look like semi-mature athletes.
     
  12. Boysinblue

    Boysinblue Member

    Jul 31, 2011
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Listening to the Tactical Manager/11 Yanks livestream on audio since the YT stream is in Portuguese - geez these guys don't know that much, they're trashing Neal, was really impressed by him so far
     
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  13. jeff_adams

    jeff_adams Member+

    Dec 16, 1999
    Monterey, Ca
    Yeah, any embarrassment is on the Feds, not the players. So many times they were escorting the Brazilian player around in packs of 3 or 4. That's not how you play team defense. They are not on the same page at all. On the first goal Walls gets cut out and you see him yell and gesture for his teammate to step to the shooter, but it never happens. It looks like a pick up game against a pro team. You're going to get slaughtered.
     
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  14. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Over-hyped wannabes after the last U-17 WC:

    - Giovanni Reyna
    - Ricardo Pepi
    - Joe Scally
    - Gianluca Busio

    And that was a cycle we were actually holding camps in along the way, unlike this one. Plus hired a manager a while earlier.
     
  15. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    They look like they never played together, what a surprise. Right side is disaster area Che is the worst player on the field and Cowell not much better. And both have no excuses of not being familiar as they are just poor individually. Aaronson is the only bright spot, Leyva and McGlynn don't look good, but they do have an excuse of not understanding each other. Slonina was not bad, and that's sad when you are losing 0:3. Cowell is way better 9 than winger and Clark anything but 9.
     
  16. bballshawn

    bballshawn Member+

    Feb 5, 2014
    Delaware
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Thank god I'm missing this one
     
  17. matt021d

    matt021d Member

    Jul 28, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How could you be impressed by any of our defense? What are you watching
     
  18. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    I honestly think the competition is too much for this team right now. I'm not sure you learn much when you're getting out classed like this. At least we seem to have a bit more fight this half. But it's hard for anyone to stand out when we just don't see the ball for more than a couple touches. That last Brazilian attack was well organized and executed. We can't compete with that right now.
     
  19. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    4-0. I don’t even think we did anything that terrible there. A weird clearance that look Walls out of position. Brazil has been clinical.
     
  20. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    Che hasn’t been that bad…he’s pushing up high because Cowell may as well not be on the field.

    Cowell has been shockingly bad.
     
  21. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    People see what they want. That’s always going to be true, especially when they don’t know the players too well. That’s why we shouldn’t put an outsized amount on these games. These kids have played plenty of games this season. If someone is choosing to judge them excessively on these games, that’s their error.
     
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  22. Boysinblue

    Boysinblue Member

    Jul 31, 2011
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Do you not understand that players can play well while getting thrashed? See Odunze vs Holland 2019. Also they said Wiley is playing well :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  23. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    I actually feel bad for these kids.

    Does anyone have a reason that USSF took so long to hire a coach and then gave them zero training sessions?

    Even for US Soccer, this seems a new low. What's the point of this for the US?
     
  24. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    By analyzing their play individually.
     
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  25. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    They switched the two wingers and the offense is looking slightly better.
     

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