Rev News, 1/26: Possible new bid for Twellman from PNE?

Discussion in 'New England Revolution' started by The Magpie, Jan 26, 2008.

  1. The Magpie

    The Magpie Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Cambridge, MA
  2. Hed7181

    Hed7181 Member

    Jul 1, 2003
    VA Beach, VA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was afraid the whole Twellman to PNE saga wasn't over.
     
  3. goussoccer

    goussoccer Member+

    May 23, 2001
    Avon, CT
    From the "Hopefuls" article...

    Resumes flow in throughout the year, explained Mike Burns, the Revoution's director of soccer. 600 or so people sent resumes to the Revs since the last tryout, and somewhere between a half and a third of those arrived in the past two weeks.

    Our coaches go through the stack," Burns said. "They look at every single one.."
    [My bolding]

    That is an awful lot of energy and focus for our FO and coaches near the end of the transfer window. To me - that's an amazing statement of how poorly our organization uses it's time.
     
  4. bwidell

    bwidell Member+

    Apr 19, 2005
    Manchester, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. keeppah

    keeppah Member

    Feb 10, 2000
    Taunton, MA
    A lot of energy? It's not like they are watching in-depth videos of most these people. A few hours sifting through paper resumes isn't really a burden on the staff. It's a longshot, but if someone like Tierney ends up making the team because they liked his resume and tryout, then it's worth the effort.
     
  6. Chowda

    Chowda Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    Rhode Island
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Maybe they are in negotiations to spend the Dempsey transfer money on a statue of Figo to go next to Eusebio's.

    Seriously though, if PNE ups their bid by $1 million (which is probably what it would take), the money from Twellman's and Dempsey's fees will be close to what the team would be paying Figo from a $7 million/2 yr contract. Grab a shirt sponsor and the money from a brief spike in attendance and season ticket sales, and it might make sense from a business standpoint. They would need to look for a suitable replacement for Twellman, though.

    Personally, I just don't think the Revs will pull it off.
     
  7. Soccer Doc

    Soccer Doc Member+

    Nov 30, 2001
    Keene, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unfortunately thats NOT how it works. Yes, the teams get 2/3 of the transfer fee but can only use a limited portion of it (500K?) on Cap relief. If Figo comes to MLS Mr Kraft will have to foot the lions share of his DP pay.

    FWIW, I don't think MLS/Revs will let Twellman go for anything less that big money ($5-8 Million) and no one is going to come in with a bid like that. Twellman my bitch and moan but he signed and he's staying---period.
     
  8. Jonny Bishop

    Jonny Bishop Member

    Sep 18, 2004
    Tacoma
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let me preface this by saying I believe a Twellman out/Figo in move is about as likely as... jesus I can't even come up with a suitably absurd analogy.

    But, since only the first $500k or so of a DP salary count against the cap, wouldn't $500k be all the money the Rev's need to pay for Figo? Assuming there's no restriction on the remainder of the transfer money going to pay off-payroll costs (such as the remainder of a DP salary) we should be ok, yeah?

    Regardless, it seems like a ridiculous restriction when you already have the salary cap strait-jacketing teams.
     
  9. Mick7184

    Mick7184 New Member

    Jan 21, 2007
    Franklin, Mass
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am more likely to suit up for the Revs this season than Figo is.
     
  10. Hagbard Celine

    Oct 7, 2003
    New Britain, CT
    Smith on life as Bermuda's top soccer pro

    Interesting quote 1:

    What injury?

    Interesting quote 2:

    Huh?!
     
  11. firstshirt

    firstshirt Member+

    Mar 1, 2000
    Ellington, CT / NK, RI
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just wondering at what point does MLS start to consider selling Twellman is a good move. Supposedly 2.5 mill was the last offer. If they come close to Dempsey money or even 3 mill do they tell the Revs, its time to sell and you to start looking for a replacement? I know many feel that to the Revs twellman is worth more than that however this is a business and MLS owns the contracts. I am sure they can strong arm the Revs if need be to cut Taylor loose if they feel the offer is fair. Who knows, maybe they even go out and find a replacement for the Revs. Since the Revs can't seem to find their own replacement for Dempsey maybe the Front office steps in and signs someone like Figo and gift wraps him to the Revs.
     
  12. BrianLBI

    BrianLBI BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 7, 2002
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So if you're the Revs (with the value of hindsight) would you prefer:

    An unhappy Twellman + Noonan in Norway?
    or
    Noonan at original salary + Twellman's transfer fee?
     
  13. soccertim

    soccertim Member

    Mar 29, 2001
    Mass
    "an awful lot of energy and focus" doesn't belong in a discussion about the Revs and player acquisitions.
     
  14. JMMUSA8

    JMMUSA8 New Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    Webster
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe what he means is that Nicol's team is not a fitness orientated team, meaning they'll outrun you every game. It's about playing smart.
     
  15. dukefan

    dukefan New Member

    Aug 26, 2006
    I think they made a huge mistake with Noonan, and frankly, there is nothing worse than a disgruntled worker, which I assume Twellman will be this year with the combo of the offer being declined and losing his buddy and assist partner. The Revs might be better off at this point letting Twellman go.

    The Revs organization has done nothing to impress me in the past 2 months and frankly, their mgmt and staff have a lot to learn about business in general. Businsses should do their best to help "employees" out if they were good to you, whether they are still with you or not and the Revs are far from being helpful. They have been a roadblock to more than just Noonan, Twellman, Shalrie and I can name a few are are extremely upset right now by the lack of cooperation from the Revs. I don't know if it is all about money or just poor decision making, but they have a lot to learn about running a business.
     
  16. Transparent_Human

    Oct 15, 2006
    Pale blue dot
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mauritius
    As much as I hate to say it, let him go and let this be a rebuilding year. When this teams win the cup, I don't think it will be with the team that lost 4 of them unfortunately. Build up the youth, look for a dp, or at least someone who can bring in business, and retool.
     
  17. ngower

    ngower foolish grin

    May 24, 2006
    Nashua, NH
    I think that's what we're all hoping for; new players, a DP, building up youth etc. Unfortunately, it seems like the youth aspect is the only one we'll be paying attention to.
     
  18. Soccer Doc

    Soccer Doc Member+

    Nov 30, 2001
    Keene, NH
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks you for your opinion Mr Trump ;)
     
  19. Mattymags811

    Mattymags811 Member

    Aug 18, 2006
    Attleboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting quote 3:

    Even Khano gets it.
     
  20. Jon Martin

    Jon Martin Member+

    Apr 25, 2000
    SE Mass
    Why wouldn't Khano get it?
     
  21. Chowda

    Chowda Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    Rhode Island
    Club:
    New England Revolution
  22. nsa

    nsa Member+

    New England Revolution; Boston Breakers
    United States
    Feb 22, 1999
    Notboston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Galderisi and Gorter would be right at home. :)
     
  23. dukefan

    dukefan New Member

    Aug 26, 2006
    Yeah-but I have much better hair- of course that isn't saying much
     
  24. miked9

    miked9 Member+

    May 4, 2000
    Philadelphia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Off topic, but while Trump is famous, he's hardly a great businessman. He's done well at financing big projects then declaring bankruptcy when he can't pay the bills.
     
  25. Mick7184

    Mick7184 New Member

    Jan 21, 2007
    Franklin, Mass
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll take his bankroll anyday.
     

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