Republican Senators balk at $$ for New Orleans

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  1. Northcal19

    Northcal19 New Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    Celtic Tavern LODO (
    So W, trying to rescue his own political ass goes on TV last night and promises a chicken in every pot. Only his backers, smelling the burnt toast that his presidency is say: "Whoa. We aint chippin' in."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/16/p...da6e9d718&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

    Has there ever been a conservative President, who didn't believe in government, that was such a free spender? Timberrrrr.....
     
  2. peledre

    peledre Member

    Mar 25, 2001
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    This is going to be like New Deal 2 (and I'm not a big fan of it). Except that Bush's own party is gunna say "No Dice", especially the people he stomped on along the way, like SD Reep Sen John Thune.
     
  3. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
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    Daschle would have saved that military base. SD elected an incompetent and and now I'm happy to see them pay for it.
     
  4. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
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    Bush more and more reminds me of...

    L.B.J.

    NO MORE TEXANS in the white house.
     
  5. minorthreat

    minorthreat Member

    Jan 1, 2001
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    Looks like a lose/lose scenario for the GOP in '06.

    Either their congressional candidates stick with Bush and risk getting hammered by their constituencies by association, or they run from him like they stole something. Either way, party strength suffers.
     
  6. argentine soccer fan

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    Jan 18, 2001
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    Not necesarily. Bush is proposing merely what government is supposed to do if a disaster of this magnitude strikes. You can be against big government, but if you have common sense you can still understand the need for government involvement in this particular type of situation.

    If congressional republicans (and democrats too) are willing to give up their hard earned 'pork' and work together to put all that money towards helping the victims of the hurricane and the rebuilding process, they will not only be doing the right thing but I think it will also help them politically. But I wouldn't bet on them doing it. Most politicians don't think that way.
     
  7. Revolt

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    Jun 16, 1999
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    The king is dead!

    Iraq and Katrina will be remembered as the reasons for the fall of the Conservative Empire. The base is crumbling. And continuing on the Roman Empire analogy, watch the base go ballistic over immigration - among other things.
     
  8. Revolt

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html
     
  9. BillQ

    BillQ New Member

    Oct 11, 1999
    Chicago, IL
    Yeah, it does seem like Bush has lost Congress over this. Next three years are going to be brutal for Bush.
     
  10. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

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    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/
     
  11. Claymore

    Claymore Member

    Jul 9, 2000
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    Hmmm...seems like a good time for BushCo to start screaming about gay marriage again, or maybe a flag burning amendment....or both....
     
  12. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
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    Better raise the terror alert level while they're at it.
     
  13. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
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    Before we start getting all self-satisfied and declare Bush's rule dead. . .



    Let's get our head out of our asses, Lefty Liberal Moonbats. If Bush & the Republican Party DOES, in fact, start to falter, we need to be organized and ready with plans and new ideas. We need to stick to the facts, and stick to what the American people want from a Government.

    Bush's speech writer did a smart thing in how he handled the race issue - he admitted it, made if official, but didn't beat it to death. He moved the conversation forward. If Democrats, instead, go back to sinking everyone in a giant swamp of blame and anger, we're just gonna end up back where we were - the minority party.

    I'm not saying we need to dump our values, I'm saying we need to stay on message. It's about the Security of our Nation, stupid. The Democratic party has been handed a golden opportunity - Bush's Department of Homeland Security failed on a grand scale and at a very deep-seeded level. They failed to have an organized response to the disaster. That's the issue. Everything else is gravy.
     
  14. BudWiser

    BudWiser New Member

    Jul 17, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    HAHAHAHA

    Ahem....

    Thanks for the laugh before I head out to enjoy this weekend
     
  15. Revolt

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    Jun 16, 1999
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    BushCo will do everything with tax increases. I wonder when they will address the tax cuts.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050916/ap_on_go_pr_wh/katrina_bush;_ylt=Aqc11D1L3Gk9iTI4B9rYx5Ks0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

     
  16. obie

    obie New Member

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    Fixed.

    Bush is not a fiscal conservative in any way or shape. He has never been in the past five years.
     
  17. peledre

    peledre Member

    Mar 25, 2001
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    Thune saved it. You must not've gotten the memo.
     
  18. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
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    'Nuts don't want to spend the money, and I think my fellow 'bats don't trust Bush to spend the money wisely. Eight billion up and vanished in Iraq - that would be enough to rebuild New Orleans on the moon.

    On top of that, I've been convinced by Mike Segroves that New Orleans as we knew it was untenable. The French Quarter and business districts survived, sure, but the Port is fighting nature. We need a long-term plan down there, as well as short-term relief. If we're going to WPA New Orleans - and we have to have SOME kind of port and oil facilities down there - we shouldn't screw it up.
     
  19. ElJefe

    ElJefe Moderator
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    Feb 16, 1999
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    Neglecting the fact that he's the scion of an old-money New England family who attended prep school (prep school!) in Massachusetts, as well as Yale and Harvard and that his "ranch" is a campaign prop that was purchased in 1999, there's the small issue that George W. Bush couldn't hold LBJ's jock.
     
  20. Calexico77

    Calexico77 Member

    Sep 19, 2003
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    What's funny is that the Republican Congress has done such a great job cutting wasteful spending out of the budget that I figured we. [giggle]. . . we'd . .[giggle, giggle]


    sorry, I just couldn't stop laughing at what I was writing. . .
     

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