Religion, Spirituality, AND Morality?

Discussion in 'Spirituality & Religion' started by chad, Jan 5, 2006.

  1. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Another strawman. Nice. "no starting point". Yeah, that's what I said. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
    Not to mention that the analogy is wrong because a) neither of them believe in those things as a matter of divine faith, b) the combination there is environmentalism.
    If this was a forum about morals its one thing. But that would be so vague it'd be useless. So religion came in. Which makes this different entirely.
    But, of course, I find the concept of this forum vague and counterproductive.

    As for my "thick" statement - just think about this. Aside from chad's point, why would theist philosophers discussing God when talking about morals mean there must be a link? Do all Christian scientists prior to the Englightenment saying the sun revolves around the earth mean there is a link there? Just because they believe something does not mean a link exists.
     
  2. eneste

    eneste Member

    Mar 24, 2000
    Pittsburgh, PA
    "Everything has a natural explanation. The moon is not a god but a great rock and the sun a hot rock." - Anaxagoras 500-428 BC
     
  3. sebakoole

    sebakoole New Member

    Jul 11, 2002
    Hey, so that's where the Rolling Stones got their album title from! For all of Jagger's inane lyrics I always suspected he was secretly a pedant.
     
  4. #10 Jersey

    #10 Jersey Member

    May 2, 1999
    too busy playing the game of who can sound the most intelligent.
     
  5. monop_poly

    monop_poly Member

    May 17, 2002
    Chicago
    I understand rooting a morality in one's religious beliefs. And I understand claiming that morality can be completely unconnected to any religion.

    But spirituality ... wtf is that? THAT I've never understood.
     
  6. Caesar

    Caesar Moderator
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    Mar 3, 2004
    Oztraya
    Re: Religion, Spirituality, AND Morales?

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  7. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    My post was not to say that I favor the parring but instead that I feel there is a need for a place on this board for philosophical discussions and that it should not be barred from this forum when "Morals" is in the title. While the parring is not ideal it's better than nothing and when discussing morals I wouldn't want to be forced to tie it to religion.
     
  8. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    What was wrong with the Politics boards for that?

    So......I'm confused. Are you in favor of a morals+religion forum or not? :confused:
     
  9. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    Matt in the Hat, Karl K, the overall politics board atmosphere.



    I'm in favor of a morals forum, maybe even an amoral or unmoral one.
     
  10. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
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    What's so bad about Matt? :confused:
     
  11. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
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    How about a forum entitled "Atheism, Materialism, and Immorality?"

    How would everybody feel about that? :eek:

    See what chad and nicephoras are getting at?
     
  12. Bob Morocco

    Bob Morocco Member+

    Aug 11, 2003
    Billings, MT
    He looks good in comparison to the poster I listed after him but he's not my ideal mod for a philosophy forum.
     
  13. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
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    If what they want is a philosophy forum, they shouldn't put it in with religion, because, well, they are fundamentally different.
     
  14. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    And suddenly, young chad's dream of one day moderating his very own BigSoccer forum seems somehow more attainable.
     
  15. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
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    The iron fist with which I would rule would be awesome to behold.
     

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