RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES!!!

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  1. spejic

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    #1276 spejic, Feb 6, 2026
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    There's something going on in deep background that might soon have big consequences.

    First, a tech primer. When you send emails and include things like pictures or video, email can't send that as-is. Email was created long ago when such things didn't exist, and it can only send text, and the core of it is still the core of email today. So what your email program does is convert digital files into text (using something called "Base64 encoding"), which is converted back by the email program at the other end.

    Lots of the Epstein emails were kept in this pure text form, with large blocks of Base64 encoded files. The DOJ didn't try unencoding them and seeing what pictures these were - they just published the files to the public. Most of those images were probably innocuous, but I'm sure you can imagine what some of them are.

    Here's an example:

    media_HAbSQe2WIAAc9LY.png

    So you're probably thinking why hasn't there been an explosion of people publishing the pictures? Well, it's because the DOJ sent out pictures of the emails using Courier font, and in the Courier font the lower case L and the number 1 are identical. So we can't tell what in the Base64 encoded data is supposed to be a L or a 1. The only way to fix it is brute force - try the file with every possible combination of L's and 1's. That would take a long time.

    Except guess who has access to extremely powerful computers? AI chatbots. Today Claude was able to reconstruct one of the images. It was just a invitation to a dinner, but this is just the start.
     
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  2. soccernutter

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    Oh, God! Considering that a number of decoded pictures are nudes, I can only imagine base64 pictures are of fully or partially nude minors.
     
  3. bostonsoccermdl

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    Great chart! I am 51 and that red chart is flying up…. A lot of sugar babies wanting a sugar daddy I imagine
     
  4. Kryptonite

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    TLDR: Trump's administration fuct something up. Something involving kiddie porn.
     
  5. argentine soccer fan

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    Thanks for your post, I always appreciate your replies full of insight.

    But going back to my point, I am not trying to minimize the effect of Judeo-Christianity in how the patriarchy evolved in Western society. But even if we focus on the roots of western civilization, isn't it true that before the Judeo-Christian influence, most ancient European cultures were already strongly patriarchal? I am talking about Greek, Roman, Gallic, Germanic, Gaelic, Celtic, etc. My understanding is that all these societies were strongly patriarchal even before the West Asian cultural values were passed on to them. Maybe Iberians not so much, at least until they were influenced by the (pre-Christian) Roman Empire.
     
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  7. superdave

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    I’m probably not alone in that from time to time I imagine our reality as a prestige TV series.

    This feels like a season finale type reveal/dénouement.
     
  8. soccernutter

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    Na, just E2S2. The end of season 1 was the wait for the files to be released...and not.
     
  9. Sounders78

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    #1284 Sounders78, Feb 6, 2026
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    I'm not so sure about the pre-Greeks (the Minoans in particular). What I've read, mostly on archaeology, does not resonate to me as a strongly patriarchal society, especially since women were quite prominent and had influential positions. It is also of interest that one of the most prominent Mycenaean deities was female. Even Greek myths suggest a significant difference in the portrayal of women compared to West Asian myths. Then you have prominent females like Sapphos from Lesbos, which is hard to find equivalents to in ancient West Asian cultures (at least that I'm aware based on all the books I've read). Add to it the wide acceptance of LGBT+ in ancient Greek (and earlier) cultures which also figure prominently in the mythology - think Zeus lusting over Ganymede and turning him into a constellation (Aquarius) when Hera got jealous, or Apollo and Zephyrus fighting over Hyacinthus, Narcissus not realizing it was himself that he had fallen in love with until later, Poseidon and Laius, etc. Then you have myths about Hermaphrodites, individuals who change their sex, Diana and her followers, etc. All those LGBT+ themes that are very prominent in Greek myths (and glossed over or excused away when Bulfinch brought them into the modern world) are not consistent with deeply patriarchal societies. Now, as I've said before, keep in mind that religion is inherently conservative, by which I mean preserving previous understandings of how the world works. So even if the Greeks were becoming more patriarchal with time, their myths reflect back on an earlier cultural understanding. Specifically, the Greek myths trace their roots back to the Minoan and Mycenaean times, thereby potentially explaining some of the things I just discussed.

    And as an additional consideration, keep in mind that in the past archaeology had a male-dominated view of the world, reflecting Western cultural values, and ignored a lot of things that focused on women or misidentified skeletal remains as male when they were, in fact, female. For example, with DNA analysis of ancient skeletons archaeologists are finding out various individuals identified as "warriors" because of their grave goods were actually female. There's also well-documented cases of archaeologists discounting or ignoring same-sex relationships in the ancient world because it went against their views (this is also evident in the ethnographic literature from most of the 1900s). [Edit - I should also add how a prominent English museum "hid" Amun's erect penis under a plaque so that it wouldn't offend patrons; explicit Egyptian sexuality was not something archaeologists wanted to focus on, to be polite].

    I'll have to pass on the Celtic cultures as I don't know too much about them. I start to lose interest once the subject turns away from the actual megaliths from those regions.


    Edit - here's a blurb (probably AI) from the Knossos website on Minoan society discussing women in the society.
     
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    Just as a follow-up to my last post where I hastily added a link before my edit-time expired, if you want to delve further into the Minoans and Mycenaeans, which I highly recommend as I find them fascinating, I recommend "The Oxford Handbook of the Bronze Age Aegean" edited by Eric Cline. It was one of my prized academic possessions but I left it for my successor given it weighed much too much for my to justify bringing it with me. It is a very thorough read. Also, if you ever get the chance to visit Crete and the Peloponnesian Peninsula I highly recommend visits to Minos's Palace at Knossos as well as to Mycenae. They're both fantastic archaeological sites.
     
  11. Kryptonite

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  12. Sufjan Guzan

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    For someone who started out on this conspiracy back in 2012 when they were a Libertarian? And it was the Clintons? This feels like season finale to season three. Season Four is going to be how they squirm out and then Season Five is gonna be the conclusion.
     
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  13. Auriaprottu

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    I know you're joking, but pedophilia just kind of isn't really funny.

    This post is pedophilia adjacent. It lauds the way rich men prey on young girls who should be experiencing life with someone their own age.


    Neither is being 51 and pretending to be looking fwd to an unbalanced relationship.
     
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    It was all Ivanka’s dream.
     
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  15. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    In addition to being a perverted rapist child trafficker, JE acted as a sort of Dear Abby to the jet-set :confused:

    King Harald, 88, and the royals are generally popular in Norway, but the case against Mette-Marit's son, Marius Borg Høiby, has been a problem for the family’s image since 2024 and the latest Epstein files have compounded that. Mette-Marit is married to Crown Prince Haakon, the heir to the throne.

    The release of documents included an email from Mette-Marit to Epstein in November 2012 asking: “Is it inappropriate for a mother to suggest two naked women carrying a surfboard for my I5-year-old son's wallpaper?”

    He replied, “Let them decide,” and advised that the mother should, “Stay out of it.”

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/norway-investigates-former-prime-minister-112132815.html
     
  16. Sufjan Guzan

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    Judeo-Christianity only enters the lexicon after WW II.
     
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  17. argentine soccer fan

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    Right. But if we think about the evolution of pre-Christian Greek states - for example Athens - which as much as Christianity if not more are the cradle of western civilization’s values (in terms of philosophy, humanism, democracy etc) we need to realize that such values evolved in societies based largely on slavery.

    As far as sex values, in the pagan Greek and Roman world, and especially for males in the top strata of society, they were able to have sex as they wished with their slaves, with no culturally imposed limits, torture included, and there were no such concepts as consent or age limits when it came to slaves, who were in many city/states and later in the Roman Empire the majority of the population.

    If anything, Judeo-Christianity did try to impose limits, although clearly going too far in the opposite direction in terms of arbitrarily condemning certain acts, practices and desires even among consenting parties, and obviously with human nature being what it is, leading also to hypocrisy and to discrimination.
     
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    #1293 argentine soccer fan, Feb 7, 2026
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    Fair enough. I am discussing the contributions of West Asian culture primarily through Christianity, and Greek/Roman culture, as well as other European cultures, and what emerged from their clash and integration in Europe as it evolved into modern western culture.
     
  19. superdave

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    Early Christians were weirdos in a couple of ways. One was their sexual morality as compared to the super freaky Romans. Another was their proto-communism.

    There’s a reason the early church skewed female. They had female-coded attitudes toward sex and sharing.
     
  20. argentine soccer fan

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    #1295 argentine soccer fan, Feb 7, 2026
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    Right. And going back further, in the narrative of the books of Maccabees you can feel the culture clash between the Jews of that era and the Hellenistic Greeks.

    Western culture is to a large extent a product of both. It’s no wonder that we are full of contradictions.
     
  21. soccernutter

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    You sure that's an appropriate description?
     
  22. bostonsoccermdl

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    I never anything about the blue, as I agree that is disgusting. And my quote was sarcasm. I ain’t looking for a sugar baby. Ican’t help what younger women are trending towards.
    Let’s just let this one go and move on.
     
  23. superdave

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    Maccabees is only in the Catholic Bible, not the Protestant one. Just an FYI.
     
  24. superdave

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    How do you mean?
     
  25. Auriaprottu

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    There's nothing for me to let go of, so this can be the last post, or you can deflect by replying again. I didn't make the statement, and my comment is what it is.
     
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