Refried Boogaloo: Trump Just... Sucks

I just think your point that attempts to relate the sort of anti-establishment and nihilistic sentiments that those bands typified to modern MAGA is a pretty daft idea.

Some of them might have favoured right-wing ideas, (although I think it was more nihilist than anything), and others were quite definitely on the left but there was no uniformity in their 'thinking', (if we can even call it that).

I think people are confusing what some of the individuals have said since but that's mostly just a matter of, 'old fart becomes a tory... shock horror'.

Most of the british ones at the time were left-wing if they were anything. Dunno about the states.

I'm talking about the punk rockers now. We obviously can't include people like Bowie anyway.

 

Punks are just like everybody else, just moreseo.

There have always been rightist punks like Fear and Skrewdriver and there have always been leftist punks like Crass and The HIRS Collective. X and the Ramones had far-leftists and far-rightists playing in the same band!

 

With the US starting to look more like nazi Germany every day, y'all gave me a great new avatar idea - what do you think?

 

It goes well with mine.

 

Any investment in Venezuela would take years to produce a meaningful increase in that country's oil production, even if the oil companies decided to do it.

 

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Yeah, that's why I said that attempts to relate them are pretty daft. They're completely different.

I was agreeing with you IOW

 

In fairness there is a tendency for people to think those in the arts are left leaning or in most cases left wing. Kelsey Grammer is a Trumper, Dali supported Franco, we all know about Morrissey, Alice Cooper and so on. It's a long and notable list.

One other way of looking at this: Frank Zappa once talked about in his book being arrested by the vice squad in California in the mid 60s. In his book, he made a quip that IIRC went, "Still think California is a hippie paradise?" I think about that one from time to time.

I think if anything, we look at art through the lens of what was counterculture 60, 50, years ago.

 

For once I agree with Trump - you guys are f---- if the supreme court rules against his stupid tariffs

 

The Blow Monkeys, ABC, of course Spandau Ballet, are all quality. Paul Young had some nice songs too.

 

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hvkf99p3f5o

 

I read that Greenland might become important if global warming breaks up the polar ice cap. It seems plausible that someone in his orbit is angling to take Greenland for that, for control of what will be new shipping lanes.

 

Him and his orbit has assured us that global warming is a liBrul HOAX!!! and pure alarmism.

 

Today, right now, Democrats should propose a “sense of the House/Senate” resolution that we will not be bailing out oil companies that invest in Venezuela. Of course it won’t pass and even if it does it’s just a resolution.

But do that NOW so they can say “we told you so” when the time comes.

Imagine how different American history would be if Democrats had done that about mortgages ca. 2005. (Not sure Democrats would have been unified enough at that time; it’s a hypothetical.). Think of how much more momentum Obama would have had in his first 90 days.

 

You should do more than post the link. Give us a short description. @Val

 

So how are the US treasury bonds doing?

 

Wow, that's some parable of epic proportions.

 

What a leader!

1. This essentially amounts to a threat of the highest in the land

2. He's basically admitting publicly the whole country is ********ed based off an illegal action he took. Way to take responsibility DJT.

He's such a ********ing moron.

 

He will never ever step outside of the limelights for anybody. The only one that matters to him is himself. He's incapable of planning ahead, so there's no chance he will understand the benefit for criminal charges against him by having someone take over by stepping aside.

 

I won't post links or images since they're not verifiable accounts, but from what I'm reading, it seems like the Trump administration and ICE are ramping up on Nazi tropes and messaging.

 

So in foreign policy, Greenland is important when warmer temperatures melt the polar ice cap. And in domestic policy, global warming is a hoax.

This will turn out well.