Centrists prefer neither. Fascism for obvious reasons... ...and socialism for reasons that should be obvious if you've learned anything at all about the electorate in this country. You can't win on socialism in this country...ever.
Why do you choose a picture of a political rally as an example of "fascism bad" and not a picture of Auschwitz or Dachau? And what do you consider socialism?
It was all bad, mate. The rise of the Nazi's led to the concentration camps, of course. And what I consider socialism doesn't really matter. This is about winning elections...and socialism is a total loser in this country. You should know that if you've lived here for any length of time. People here are let's just say not too engaged and informed politically, for the most part. Socialism is a great big bogeyman sure to scare the hell out of folks even more than mass, unchecked migration. If people on the left really don't see that by now, we're well and truly doomed.
Have you tried Democratic Socialism to treat your IC dysfunction? It's been proven effective in a good number of Western democracies.
What do you mean have I tried it? The word socialism is toxic...as in a complete bust. If Democrats want to waive buh-bye to Democracy and capitulate to the Sturmabteilung, we should embrace socialism, in any way, shape or form. It's sure to keep us sidelined and deceased. Anyone watching politics in America today who tells you socialism, even socialism lite dressed up in a fancy bow, is the path forward in our fight against fascism...they're idiots who haven't learned a damn thing about politics in this country. Socialism feeds right into the MAGA narrative and they will run with that all day long, scaring the living hell out of the good folks.
Racism - check Blaming foreigners for our problems - check Blaming the poor for our problems - check Blaming workers organisations for our problems - check Am I missing anything?
Bulwark are doing a significantly better job fighting back against Trumpism than anyone on the 'left' bar possibly Crooked Media (on a good day). They understand what's happening far more clearly and have seen the path far more accurately than most outlets. Go back and read many of their articles and pods from circa 2020 - 2021.
I don't mind them and have posted several examples of their work myself. I'm just saying we need to remember these are the SAME people who were banging on about the 'laffer curve', the expected successes of 'the war on terror' and 'the war on drugs. They were also the ones who were on board with the moral panic around 'super predators' and the exaggerated threat connected with them. Pretty much ALL of the sorts of things that Trump is doing can be traced back, in one form or another, to the Reagan and Bush years and the people around them. I'm happy to forget all that in the present crisis. I'm just saying there IS a connection. That's all.
It was Ted Heath actually but she was standing near him when he did it so, OK. But she THEN spent several years blaming them for most of the UK's problems, so I'm not your point really works. She spent her time blaming all and sundry for her mistakes and miscalculations and that's Farage's shtck as well so, yes... we can draw a direct line from her to him.
At the same time, it's important to remember Trumpism is the anti thesis of Conservatism. It's a different universe and not the same thing at all. It's some weird post modern Christo fascism, punctuated by the whims of Dear Leader. Everyday, Trump is making policy decisions that would have seen him destroyed in Conservative movements of the 70s to 90s.
Well...totally expected..... “Joblessness for Black workers is rising again, two years after reaching a record low. It’s a troubling indicator: Joblessness often spikes higher for historically marginalized groups during economic downturns, and takes longer to fall,” the New York Times reports. “This time, the Trump administration’s assault on diversity programs and cuts to the federal work force could make it even more difficult for Black workers to recover when conditions improve.”
In general i have trouble with the idea that the champions of neoliberalism somehow caused post liberalism. eg thatcher and reagan wanted to deregulate and privatise which is the opposite of trumpism and the faragists who want to dismantle trade impose tariffs and take state control of industries.
I'm not saying it's the same. I'm saying the republicans' abandonment of truth and disregard for reality have been extended and amplified by him.
Well, just looking at the language, post liberalism WOULD follow neoliberalism, wouldn't it, but I think it's more complicated than that in some ways, albeit simpler in others. Again, more complicated in some ways but simpler in others. Privatisation, in the UK, was more about selling off UK government industries to her friends in the city, via the rubes so they got their 'share' of the spoils to encourage them to vote tory. The same thing happened with council house sales, sold off cheap to get people to vote tory as a bribe. Likewise, deregulation was about removing controls on corporations to increase their power over workers and the market. That was also why Thatcher pushed the EU to form the single market... to increase profitability at the expense of workers' interests. Trump is just old fashioned larceny where he wants to control industries so he can get a 'slice'. Similarly, he's introduced tariffs as a sales tax on imports to replace taxes on the wealthy, i.e. him and is friends. Farage MIGHT try and do the same but we don't know yet as he's not in a position to do it.
Donald Trump made big gains with Black voters in 2024. Can Republicans hold them in the midterms? - POLITICO Makes me wonder why the Black vote (for Trump) jumped to 15% from 8% just four years earlier. Apparently, healthcare and the economy were most important, but how they thought they'd fair better under Trump is a mystery.
For all of Thatcher's faults, I doubt she was corrupt. As for Farage, I feel some birds are about to come home to roost around that.