Refried Boogaloo: Trump Just... Sucks

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Val, Aug 6, 2025.

  1. usscouse

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  2. What do you mean by "Even when they're (probably) not intentionally trying to be like Nazis"?
    When your whole project 2025 and your actions and your public statements point to dealing with "Üntermenschen" from a white supremacy ideology, you ARE fokking nazi vermin.
     
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  3. Naughtius Maximus

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    Just watching the latest Sarah Longwell focus group thing and it's becoming more obvious why the US is up shit creek to the extent it is... because people on the centre right ALWAYS had a completely screwed up picture of their own political position...



    At about 5 mins.

    Almost ALL of the things she claims about what 'the right' supported are either a lie OR they claimed to care about them but only inasmuch as it supported their REAL agenda of cutting taxes and fecking over the working class. Other than that, they didn't give a shit.

    All these people have done is provide a sort of intellectual, (THEY think), underpinning for some of the most negative and dangerously right-wing policies that actively harm ordinary people.

    You can link what Trump is doing directly to what Reagen and even Nixon did back in the day. What's worse is, in how people like Clinton blamed POC's and 'the poor' for America's problems, (in the shape of 'the war on drugs'), and how the interests of those groups were a necessary cost to make America 'leaner and fitter', ((C)ThatcherCrap 1979), which only served the interests of corporate America and the banks.

    This is what people like Longwell and the other clown have led us to and why they are as MUCH to blame for all the shite we're now faced with.

    They kidded themselves they were on the side of the angels and the rest of us are paying the price.

    Just my 02c.
     
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  4. Brexit was a self inflicted wound, that can be mellowed by sensible deals.
    This gop necrotizing fasciitis brought upon the american society can't be dealt by later sensible governments. This self inflicted disease has eaten it's way into the prime institutions and caused a decay that only can be dealt by ferocious cutting out rotten AND healthy tissue.
    Everybody will see, when looking at the usa, a corpse, not with scars, but with deep mutilations.
     
  5. NietzscheIsDead

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    Why do you all keep losing elections? Why are you losing the culture?

    When you isolate yourselves into silos with echo chambers that produce stuff like this, you’re obviously going to turn people off. Not because its morally repulsive, but because its equal parts unfunny, weird, awkward, and unclever.
     
  6. roadkit

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    Same here
     
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  7. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

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    Who won the last special elections for the House? Who won the Presidency before Trump — both times? You really need to up your game because you come off like an ignorant shitstick when you post crap like this.

    You know what turns people off? Being a misogynist, racist piece of shit. It doesn’t mean you deserve to take a dirt nap for it, but those are morally reprehensible positions you’re supporting.
     
  8. Pittsburgh Ref

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    Ok
     
  9. NietzscheIsDead

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    More weird echo chamber dehumanization language from you all.

    You must feel good about yourself by clarifying that I don’t “deserve a dirt nap” over a bunch of nonsense you just made up.
     
  10. NietzscheIsDead

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    Here’s another incomprehensible, awkward product of the far left rabbit hole echo chamber.

    Any normie or regular joe wouldn’t be able to tell who those horribly-done objects are even supposed to be likenesses of, much less to put together the leftist fever swamp fever dream that spawned them.
     
  11. The Jitty Slitter

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    So Longwell who founded one of the most significant anti trump media operations in 2017 is the person who led us to fascism?

    do you have a podcast i can subscribe to?
     
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  12. The Jitty Slitter

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    Longwell has shared some info on the rapid growth of the Bulwark since she pitched Reid Hoffman for the seed money. Sykes was the original face of the podcast but it turns out the 3 business partners are Longwell, Miller and JV Last.

    They are bigger than the Free Press and have 100k paying subs.

    so basically now a serious media business. I wish donors would found more instead of wasting so much money on presidential and senate campaigns.
     
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  13. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

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    Charlie Kirk is dead. Get over it.
     
  14. Quakes05

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    Alice für Deutschland!

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    Fascism on the rise again in Deutschland... "The AfD is now the largest opposition party in Germany’s Bundestag."

    We've all got our fascists it would seem.

    Far-right AfD tops German popularity ranking in bombshell new survey – POLITICO

    Alice Weidel took the German far right to new heights. Here’s how she did it. – POLITICO

    :cautious:
     
  15. Quakes05

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    German fascists cozying up with Trump fascists...

    Trump Officials Visited by Germany Far-Right AfD Leader Beatrix von Storch: Report - Newsweek



    Trump Defends Far Right AfD Party After German Intelligence Calls It “Extremist” | Truthout

    German Nazi's on the march (again)...

    German far-right leader intentionally used banned Nazi slogan, court rules – POLITICO

    "A leading politician for the far-right Alternative for Germany party (AfD) has been convicted by a German court of using a banned Nazi slogan — a decision that is unlikely to dissuade the party’s core supporters in its eastern strongholds.

    Björn Höcke, who heads the AfD in the eastern German state of Thuringia, was fined €13,000 for closing a 2021 campaign speech with the phrase: “Everything for Germany!”

    That phrase is prohibited in political speeches in Germany because it was used by Adolf Hitler’s SA storm troopers, the violent paramilitary that played a pivotal role in the Nazi rise to power in the 1930s. The slogan was etched on the blades of SA daggers."
     
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  16. Auriaprottu

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    Nah, whatever happens to Whites over there will be brief, and not targeted at them. What's happening to POCs in America is going to be a lifetime of dehumanization, spanning several generations. I had to halfway curse out an older Black man who thinks his faith will get him thru this neoconfederacy. He was swaggering around thinking he'd been thru worse, but when I told him he was bolstwred by hope because his plight was trending upward during the Civil Rights Movement. Now, it's trending down toward Jim Crow.
     
  17. Kryptonite

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    The same people that talk about "Democratic echo chambers" watch NewsMax and OAN.
     
  18. Kryptonite

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    "It was a crisis actor. The liberal media staged it."

    Someone, probably.
     
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  19. Quakes05

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    Germany's AfD seeks closer ties to Trump and MAGA movement – DW – 10/06/2025

    Is MAGA basically the Sturmabteilung, but with red hats instead of brown shirts?

    This German word explains Trump's (and Hitler's) rise to power – The Forward

    Führerprinzip

    "While he was writing Mein Kampf within the walls of Landsberg prison in 1924, Adolf Hitler argued that Germany’s salvation required a single, infallible leader — one whose will would override parliamentary squabbling, legal constraints and institutional checks. This governing idea, known as the Führerprinzip, became the spine of Nazi rule: first consolidating control over the party, then over the state...

    ...Since taking office for the second time, Trump’s actions seem like they’ve come right out of a playbook for implementing the Führerprinzip – he has issued legally dubious executive orders, assaulted the rule of law, the free press, the judiciary, higher education, and so much more. He has used threats of retribution to turn Republicans into a party that marches in complete lockstep with a leader who demands loyalty above law."
     
  20. soccernutter

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    That is a really strange take. Longwell might have grown up conservative, but some time in the early 2010s (maybe before that) realized that her views were not compatible with the way Republicans were going, and broke from them. But she's never been right wing in the way MAGA is, or even how the Tea Party was. So it is really strange to have you blame her being where we are.
     
  21. Naughtius Maximus

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    I didn't say, 'she led us to'... like it was SOLELY Reagan republicans' fault. I said she, and people like her, are to blame as well. Their lies and dissembling about how their policies impacted ordinary people and the reasons for supporting them were always an absolute crock. That's the case from 'The Laffer Curve' to 'The war on drugs'.

    Trump's just following the abandonment of reality and dishonesty about reasons for supporting policies to its logical conclusion.
     
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  22. russ

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    Louder for the people in the back...

    CENTRISTS PREFER FASCISM TO SOCIALISM.
     
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  23. The Jitty Slitter

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    The irony is the early period of the bulwark during Trump 1 was a daily exploration of why about 95% of mainstream republicans turned out not to believe in the things they claimed to believe in. Many of the people that Sykes had on the show were centre right republicans who opposed trump, and talked about what they were seeing. People like David French for example.

    That is all much less of a focus now the GOP went fully fash. As Longwell says, there are no moderate republicans anymore - only vichy cowards going along with fascism
     
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  24. Naughtius Maximus

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    According to her wiki entry she was still pushing corporate nonsense, pretending, for example, that the dangers of drink driving were overblown up to at LEAST 2017.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Longwell

    ...

    After graduation from Kenyon College in 2002, Longwell worked for the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, a conservative group in Delaware. In 2005, Longwell moved to Washington, D.C., where she found a job with Richard Berman, a Republican lobbyist and later PR expert who runs several industry-funded nonprofit lobbying and PR organizations.[7] Over the next 15 years, she worked at Berman and Company and became senior vice president and communications director, leading media campaigns on a wide range of public policy issues.[8][6] Longwell also served as managing director of the American Beverage Institute,[9][10] a trade association set up by Berman[7] that lobbies on behalf of the alcohol industry, such as by arguing that the risks of drunk driving have been exaggerated and laws that have been adopted to reduce it are ineffective or inappropriate[11] and opposing the lowering of the blood alcohol concentration limit for driving under the influence (DUI) in Utah.[10]

    So let's not pretend this was some youthful indiscretion that will pass as she gets older. If it wasn't for Trump I'm sure she'd be MORE than happy to promote similar lies and obfuscations in an attempt to mislead people about the nature of how capitalism, at its base, oppresses and diminishes ordinary people unless it's tempered by some form of democratic control.

    Also, to repeat myself, I am not blaming her, on her own... I'm saying what she and others were doing has led us to this point.
     
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