ref!!

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by wcssstar33, Aug 12, 2009.

  1. wcssstar33

    wcssstar33 Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What inthe world was going on there? For some mexicans can club our players in the neck and if we sneeze in their general direction its a card.

    Unbelieveable

    Mexico played well, but that Linesman was in no position to call Davies offside at all. And if running into gooch on purpose isn't a card, I don't know what is.
     
  2. tolucafan

    tolucafan Member

    Jul 27, 2009
    Club:
    Deportivo Toluca FC
    whining about the Refs? standard.
     
  3. whip

    whip Member

    Aug 5, 2000
    HOUSTON TEXAS
    Whinning.....Are you mentally retarded?? This is a athletic competition why a ref have to come into play...
     
  4. Rhinophant

    Rhinophant New Member

    Jun 3, 2009
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Mexican who hit Benny in the neck did get a yellow card.
     
  5. cheguevara04

    cheguevara04 Member

    Apr 19, 2005
    The referree was terrible. The officiating was an embaressment to the entire CONCACAF. The US did get outplayed by Mexico. No question or debate about it. That being said, the ref was unbelievably one-sided.
     
  6. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    What yellow-cards on the USA weren't warranted?

    And yes Davies was offside. I didn't notice the position of the linesman but he got the call correct so what are you whinging about?
     
  7. Chastaen

    Chastaen Member+

    Alavés
    Jul 9, 2004
    Winnipeg
    Club:
    Aston Villa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All of them...if you watch the things that were not called against Mexico and apply the same standard. Much like the old saying in American Football..."You can call holding on every play." The problem is when you call it lopsided, knowing that one team is getting away with it.
     
  8. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Ehh, that's pretty much what I expect from CONCACAF.
     
  9. Rhinophant

    Rhinophant New Member

    Jun 3, 2009
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The problem isn't so much at the cards weren't warranted, but more that they were inconsistent. Mexico could have, and probably should have, gotten cards for the same fouls. No doubt the threat of 110,000 angry spectators willing to rip your throat out through your ass if you call against them pressured the ref a bit.
     
  10. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Alexei Lalas, is that you?

    As in any football match, there were 1 or 2 debatable decisions and as usual they went in favor of the home team. But these were very minor decisions. Minor as in whether or not to give a Mexican player his first yellow in the 89th minute.

    Were there any calls that actually affected the 2-1 outcome though?
     
  11. Doc210

    Doc210 Member

    May 28, 2009
    Club:
    --other--
    Mexico should buy the ref a steak for all the non calls against them yeah well mexico isn't making it to the world cup anyways
     
  12. judodono

    judodono Member

    Jun 14, 2005
    Bay Area, Ca.
    Club:
    --other--
    you and Andres Cantor disagree
     
  13. judodono

    judodono Member

    Jun 14, 2005
    Bay Area, Ca.
    Club:
    --other--
    exactly, just one of the conditions of the game. Tough game, tough loss, but no one said it would be easy.
     
  14. anonymous guy

    anonymous guy Member

    Mar 19, 2007
    Davies offside call, for one, I couldn't tell from the great mun2 camera angle. Also if guardado had gotten yellow carded the first foul, he could not have the foul that stopped Dolo from running straight at their defenders. Not giving out cards for stuff like running into Gooch allowed the Mexicans to play their typical style of classless play that gets under the skin of the other team. Don't think professionals get irritated by stuff like that, then why do NHL teams have skill less goons? and no it's not just to fight.

    I'm not blaming the ref, our organization was terrible all game. But refereeing does change games and very easily can change a scoreline regardless of major noticeable missed calls.
     
  15. canchon

    canchon Member

    Aug 22, 2008
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Sao Paulo FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When the announcers (who have just a little bit of bias) start hedging their bets with "well, I don't know if he was offside or not..." there's your answer. He was not offside.
     
  16. FIREbradley

    FIREbradley New Member

    Jun 6, 2009
    Club:
    3 de Febrero
    Uhhh, does the first goal by Mexico ring a bell?
     
  17. patrickn

    patrickn New Member

    Jun 1, 2006
    California
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Ref was fine. The game's over. You can get out the soccer bunker, kids.

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  18. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Mexico qualified for the WC today. Look at their matches for the last 3 rounds of the HEX.

    Which play are you referring to? The one midway through the second-half where he slid the ball slowly into the net after the whistle?
     
  19. Cpvault

    Cpvault New Member

    Mar 27, 2006
    Grover Beach, CA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Classless in winning! Classless in losing! That's Mexico.
     
  20. wellz

    wellz New Member

    Jul 27, 2009
    Washington D.C.
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you actually believe that then you are a complete fool, this was one of the most terribly officiated games of football I have watched in years. Absolutely disgusted by the decisions the ref made on throughout the entire match.. not to mention the mexicant fans throwing trash at Donovan while he was trying to take a corner....is it any wonder why we don't play in that "country" half of them prob game across the border to go to that game anyways
     
  21. lollerz

    lollerz New Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Yet you're the one whining? Odd...
     
  22. MrHobbles

    MrHobbles Member

    Jul 14, 2008
    Linden and San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The refs were scared to card Mexico. Three out of four of our back line had a card within the first half and Mexico doesn't get one until late in the second?

    The ref let the crowd dictate the game, Mexico had many equivalent tackles that got Americans yellows, while Mexicans got nothing. Would the result have been different if the ref had been less of a **********? Probably not. The USA's midfield was almost non-existent today which was the biggest factor of all.
     
  23. lollerz

    lollerz New Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    You're overreacting because of your passionate support for your team. It wasn't perfect, but the worst game you've watched in years? Unless you've watched like 5 games total, that's just overreacting.

    The ref saved us from playing with 10 on that Bocanegra second-yellow foul to Gio on a breakaway. That's more of an advantage we got from him than all the pro-MX calls put together.

    As for offsides, the calls went both ways.
     
  24. sabresrule30

    sabresrule30 Member

    Aug 12, 2009
    Charlotte NC
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought the non-call when Donovan got pulled down by his arm just about 1 minute before Mexico's first goal was totally mizz!!

    AND led to a goal.
     
  25. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    You were disgusted by a couple of empty paper cups being thrown in Landon's direction? Talk about grasping for straws.

    Did you not watch some of the Gold Cup games (you know... on US soil)? Much worse! El Salvador - Costa Rica in Los Angeles comes to mind but there were others.
     

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