Red Fred Redemption - The Fred Thread

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  1. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I think Fred/McTominay and a 10 is something we've HAD to play, especially against top sides who have better midfields. It works because Fred/McTominay are dueling demons. They both compete and press like maniacs and between them and Jesse/AP there's so much harassing, tackling and fouling, it is really hard to transition through the middle of the pitch against us.

    But against teams that aren't going to attack us head on and leave a lot of space for that 10 and our 3 attackers to exploit? Against them we suck. I don't know if having both of Fred/McTominay is better than having Pogba next to one of them and a 10 ahead of them both.

    I think if we play with Shaw and AWB, Martial and Pogba will have to be absolute top tier for us to beat a bunkering team because there will be no help from the fullbacks and the only way we are getting quick transitions is Pogba breaking the lines. If/when he doesn't, we will require the ball to stick w/ Martial and for him to bring the other attackers in... whilst playing against a 1v2 or 1v3 situation. That's why the 10 is helpful... ESPECIALLY when it is Jesse. Jesse ends up occupying a CB when he's not dragging the DM out of position.
     
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  2. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Our quickest player :eek:

     
  4. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Fredrick redemption/renaissance continued this past weekend vs Burnley.
    88% final third passes
    56 passes completed (most)
    4/5 long balls (most)
    3/3 take-ons
    Also registered the most tackles in that game. A very fine display, with Matic next to him of all people (actually believe that Fred's high energy play was a big contributor for his solid performance on the day).
    He's been nominated along with Rashford, Martial and Greenwood for United Player of the Month for December. All great selections who are well deserving of the nod. Not sure if Fred will get it but it's between him and Rashford, as far as I'm concerned.
    I really can't wait for him and Pogs to play together: on the form Fred is in at the moment, it really could be fun to watch.
     
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  5. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Came here to say how impressed I am w/ Fred's defensive abilities and athleticism. I assumed he'd be quick and be able to run for days, but he's won quite a few defensive headers and made some really good challenges aerially and otherwise that have prevented chances and I didn't expect him to be there at this stage.

    He's needed time to settle and a run of games, but holy shit, he's been on fire.
     
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  6. jnielsen

    jnielsen Member+

    May 12, 2012
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    He appears to have great leaping ability.
     
  7. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Best player at the club, along with Rashford, since the start of December, easily.
     
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  8. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    amazing what actual faith and a run of games bigger than 4 or 5 can do for you. who knew
     
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  9. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

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  10. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
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    United States
  11. Naboomagnoli

    Naboomagnoli Member+

    May 31, 2007
  12. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  13. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Curious to hear the whole interview (as clearly the more juicy bits and pieces have been reported by the English press). But the above is where it's at,and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it, as far as I'm concerned as he simply spoke the truth (just like his comments about our lack of creativity which is well known by all).
    With his good form in the past couple of months, he's shown a new found confidence that goes beyond his play on the pitch and it's good to see.
    Not to mention that we've been crying out for guys to step up, show leadership and some grit, both on and off the pitch. McTominay has shown signs earlier in the year and Fred now is another. Fernandes in one game has already exhibited some of those qualities also. The press (the tabloids particularly) will present this as venomous or what have you, but he appears to simply stating facts. I welcome this 100%:
    Plus some players deserve to be called out, based on their play alone anyway on some level, if we're being completely honest. Preach, Pastor Fred, preach!
     
  14. Anonymous_United

    Manchester United
    Brazil
    Jul 13, 2018
    The dirt has to come out and we fans who have endured alot deserves to know every bits and pieces of truth.
     
  15. MizzouMUFC

    MizzouMUFC Member+

    Apr 10, 2010
    Places
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    Manchester United FC
    We’re in a culture rebuild and if there’s a shithead in the locker room that doesn’t fall in line then that person should go.
     
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  16. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
    PA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Lebanon
    I agree with Fred. You can use social media the way he is using it or the way Lingard uses it.
     
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  17. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Spot on from Carrick. Another MotM display from him today at the Bridge. So very happy to see him come good, as he always had it in him. Very much one of the most important guys on the team as far as I'm concerned. Absolutely awesome and somehow he makes Matic look very decent and they consistently work well together.
     
  18. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. Sofabloke

    Sofabloke Member+

    Dec 24, 2003
    Mu
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    1235505331951874048 is not a valid tweet id
     
  20. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. JC7rox

    JC7rox Member+

    Manchester United FC, LAFC
    Jun 11, 2004
    West Coast, Cali!
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Pastor Fred?

    What’s the story on that?
     
  22. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's a deeply religious guy, like most Brazilians and is very open about it.
    [​IMG]
     
  23. Ashur

    Ashur Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    May 31, 2015
    Riding off into the sunset
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Don't think it's out of bounds to speak of Fredrick as one of the best CMs in the league this season. Been a model of consistency for the last 4mos and seemingly gets even better in big games, putting in superb shifts and working his butt off. Amazing turnaround.
     
  24. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    With Rashford out, he's my player of the year.

    Wan Bissaka is my only other candidate.
     
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  25. J'can

    J'can Member+

    Jul 3, 2007
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    Manchester United FC
    Bruno without a doubt :cool:
     

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