Red Bulls Sign Luis Robles

Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by defendyourself, Aug 8, 2012.

  1. defendyourself

    Jul 13, 2008
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure why we needed to do this now (having four goalies I think is a waste), but they did it anyway. I am assuming Vuolo did not work out as planned or Meara has had an injury setback.

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  2. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    This makes no sense at all after picking up Gaudette, who has been playing very well... Even if Backe seems to be unimpressed with Voulo, surely he's not such a horrendous 3rd string that we had to bring in another guy... How much is Robles salary?
     
  3. jeremydneezy

    jeremydneezy Member

    Dec 12, 2011
    Greenville, SC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This has to be a move with another move in mind, right? Maybe flipping Gaudette for defensive cover or something along those lines. If not, it seems puzzling at best. And if they get rid of Meara I will be very disappointed to put it diplomatically.
     
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  4. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    I stand up for Backe and Soler far more than others, but if they cut Meara then its time to break out the torches and pitchforks. I'd say that this is trade bait, but how many teams passed on him? My understanding was that we were pretty low in the allocation order, which means most of the league isn't interested in picking him up for free, let alone trading for him.

    Trade to Philly for allocation money maybe? Something similar to what we did with Amarikwa?
     
  5. theENFORCER

    theENFORCER Member

    Apr 10, 2010
    NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't understand the signing.. Hopefully he doesn't take away the job from Meara which seems like a move that Backe would do..

    I don't understand why we didn't make a move for a RB..
     
  6. FlipsLikeAPancake

    Jul 6, 2010
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree, the move makes little sense unless Gaudette is flipped. I also agree on ; he is good, young and cheap so he should not be moved.
     
  7. lkgf09

    lkgf09 Member

    Jun 7, 2004
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't get it.

    As long as he doesn't get playing time over Gaudette or Meara than it's not a big deal to me. If he's just replacing Vuolo for now it doesn't bother me.

    Meara is and should be our gk of the future.

    Maybe he can be trade bait but I don't see any other teams who need a gk. Teams could have just as easily picked him up via an allocation.

    I guess we'll have to wait and see.
     
  8. metz

    metz Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Will be not the first player to be out of position, this get crazy by the minute, WTF are this peoples doing.... Of course they will get rid of Meara he hasn't a Scandinavian experience....

    Maybe FIFA change the rules and they will use the three keeper at the same time to compensate for the ridicules defense they have....
     
  9. Metrosuccess

    Metrosuccess Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    WTF is Cluless going to do?? My gut says Meara sits. We need a central defender, pass on Nesta yet now sign a 4th GK. WTF????????????????????
     
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  10. lkgf09

    lkgf09 Member

    Jun 7, 2004
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hans is not the GM, Soler is.
     
  11. Metrosuccess

    Metrosuccess Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One and the same. Seem to be on same page all the time. se,mantics.
     
  12. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Maybe we are going to play with 2 in goal to cover for Rafa?
     
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  13. theENFORCER

    theENFORCER Member

    Apr 10, 2010
    NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's what I'm fearing.. I think for some odd reason he may just get rid of Meara which is totally baffling to me. If they did it with Agudelo I'm sure they'll do it with Meara.

    I hope this guy isn't making alot. He just spent a season in the second bundesliga so it's definitely not for the mininmum
     
  14. KareemSoda

    KareemSoda Member

    Jan 23, 2003
    Not in NY
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ha Ha Ha!
    You people are so funny!
    Crying because your favorite players may not get as much playing time as you would like.
    Has it occurred to anyone that this move was made because management think that Robles is better than either Meara or Gaudette? He certainly has the pedigree.
    If you want to see the cup raised then there has to be improvement and competition in every practice.
     
  15. FlipsLikeAPancake

    Jul 6, 2010
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have no issue with the Red Bulls looking for an upgrade. I'm high on Meara but if they think Robles is better, so be it. That being said, I don't think this move inherently indicates that we're moving Meara. Meara is young and cheap, so he'd make a good back up. What doesn't make sense is having 4 keepers, so I expect something to happen.

    Releasing Vuolo makes sense because clearly we don't trust him enough to ever play for us. When Meara got hurt we went and traded for someone rather than start Vuolo. Says a lot, I think. Trading Guadette would make sense, though Meara would certainly have more trade value. My thinking is that trading Meara would be a big mistake unless we were bowled over, because he's just a very cost effective player to have on the roster in a tight salary cap league.
     
  16. juan agudelowns

    Apr 27, 2011
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    I don't think you can really draw a parallel between Meara and Agudelo, they are two entirely different stories. Agudelo never really fully impressed anyone outside of a few flashes, whereas Meara has been our starting GK for most of the season and has been absolutely excellent this season. I don't think they would just send him off after half a season in the net, but I also don't get why they picked up Robles. I think we were 10th in the allocation? Maybe they knew someone below them wanted to spring for him so they figured they might as well try to get something out of it. If that's the case then I applaud them, that's crafty.
     
  17. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    This seriously needs to be posted non stop once the Backe hate parade gets going. I'm honestly surprised that Backe wasn't blamed for most of Heck's decisions...

    I'm aware you love ripping on Backe at any given opportunity, no matter what the situation is, but they are not one in the same. Soler is known as a micro-manager, if anything he probably influences Backe's decisions far more than Backe influences his.
     
  18. Metrosuccess

    Metrosuccess Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You don;t think Soler asks Hanster about his opinion about how a player would work with what we have now before he makes a move? I think they are always on the same page.
     
  19. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    There's probably discussion but in the end the roster is Soler's job, he makes all the final decisions. From what we've actually heard, Backe has made suggestions for players he knows (Rodgers), but there's nothing to suggest he has any more power than that.

    Blaming Backe for poor signings is like blaming Soler for rolling out a bad starting lineup.
     
  20. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    Backe has plenty to take blame for without Soler's list. Soler actually has had a pretty good season.
     
  21. Black Tide

    Black Tide Member+

    Mar 8, 2007
    the 8th Dimension
    Just taking a quick look at the league and who could potential need a keeper the list fairly long especially when you look at who could use a backup. My feeling is that Galudette gets flipped. There are a number of teams that have aging keepers and no clear back up option for more than a few games. And some of those aging keepers are probably close to if not ready for retirement. This is potentially a shrewd move on Solar's part as Galudette has played well enough to prove he could be a starting keeper. Also I doubt he is making a huge salary which is also important because guys like Joe Canon and Matt Ries are making a good amount of money both have weak backups and are 37-38 years old... The other option is that Robles is trade bait. Which again looking at the league there are some teams that could use a keeper.

    So how about we settle down before we freak out and scream about the sky falling.
     
  22. lkgf09

    lkgf09 Member

    Jun 7, 2004
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can't see us flipping Gaudette. We just git him and he has played extremely well. Continuity between a backline a gk is important and with Meara or Gaudette playing we have that. I would hate to see them throw a 3rd guy in there for the back line to get used to another gk. They already had to do it once this year with Gaudette and luckily it worked out well so no need to risk going through it again.
     
  23. lkgf09

    lkgf09 Member

    Jun 7, 2004
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  24. GMangs

    GMangs Red Card

    Apr 21, 2012
    NJ
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Soler doesn't just go sign whoever he wants. It is the same in any sport. The GM and coach discuss players they want. Hans coaches and Soler negotiates with players and teams. They both have a hand in who comes and who doesn't.
     
  25. iced1776

    iced1776 Member+

    Dec 4, 2009
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    I understand that, my point is just that time after time Backe gets shit for the roster without even a mention of Soler, who in the end is responsible for it regardless of how much input he gets from the coach.

    Tough news about Meara, this is like the Tainio news all over again.
     

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