News: Recent polls and stats on soccer popularity in the USA

Discussion in 'Soccer in the USA' started by Brasitusa, Jun 9, 2014.

  1. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

    AC Milan
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    May 14, 2014
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    New York City FC
    Yes, it's sufficient to have some Mexican-Americans who are legit US citizens rooting against us, and they'll count as Americans against the USMNT. We do have this phenomenon here of playing home games with a domestic crowd rooting against us, especially in the Southern and West Coast cities with heavy Hispanic presence. It's not like this in all cities, though, and support for the USMNT is getting a nice foothold in may places like Seattle, Salt Lake City, etc.
     
  2. Potowmack

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    Apr 2, 2010
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think that's a great comparison. It certainly doesn't tell us anything about the relative popularity of soccer versus basketball in this country. The NBA playoffs have limited appeal for people outside of the two cities involved.
     
  3. Brasitusa

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    AC Milan
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    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Well, if it has limited appeal, that's a lower level of popularity, or at the very least, if no good indication of popularity, at least it is an indication of passion. Me, I watch soccer even when my preferred teams are not involved.
     
  4. Potowmack

    Potowmack Member+

    Apr 2, 2010
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, you're comparing apples and oranges. US-Ghana is something that might be of interest to people all over the country. On the other hand, Miami-San Antonio is of limited appeal to people who don't have a rooting interest. But all of the objective criteria show that basketball is more popular than soccer in the US.

    If you wanted to compare something similar, you might look at a game like Colombia-Greece today. Sure, some people in the US watched it, but the TV ratings were likely low in this country.

    And "passion" is way too subjective.
     
  5. Waliatiger

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    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    What was the USA-Ghana TV ratings.
     
  6. BostonRed

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    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The match registered a 7.0 overnight rating on ESPN, good for second-highest rating for a group stage match on record in the United States. And that's not counting the 1.4 million who watched via WatchESPN.


    The number one match of all-time? USA vs. England in 2010, which got a 7.5 overnight rating. However, that game was on network TV (ABC) and it aired on a Saturday.


    Let's not forget the numbers on Univision either, as there was an average of 3.8 million tuning in on Spanish-language television.


    http://www.mlssoccer.com/worldcup/2...hana-second-highest-group-stage-match-ever-us
     
  7. Waliatiger

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    Jul 1, 2013
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    Arsenal FC
    I'm not good with tv ratings does 7.0 mean 7 million?
     
  8. BostonRed

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    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Someone in the linked article tweeted:

    Anybody talking about the average 3.7m viewers for WC on ESPN needs to include the average 3.8m on Univision to get total U.S. audience.
     
  9. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    No. Ratings are the percentage of all tv households that watched a particular show. There are about 116 million TV homes in the U.S.. So a 7.0 rating would be 8.1 million homes.
     
  10. Waliatiger

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    8.1 is low IMO much lower then the 16 million that watched the nba finals.
     
  11. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    #36 newtex, Jun 17, 2014
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    People are using different numbers. That 16 million for the NBA finals is the guess at the number of viewers, not households.

    The rating for the NBA final was a 10.3. That is very similar to the combined ESPN/Univision rating of 7.0 + 3.0 for a 10.
     
  12. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    From Twitter:

    That would be 15.9 million viewers.
     
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  13. BostonRed

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    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States



    Not sure if it includes ESPN's online viewership.
     
  14. newtex

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    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The 15.9 does not include WatchESPN.
     
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  15. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
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    16 million is a good number, the number should be higher vs Portugal.
     
  16. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And I just read this on SBI:

    Univision’s online stream drew 1.7 million live streams.

    So, 3.1 million online viewers, plus 15.9 million ESPN/Univision viewers... 19 million viewers watched that match (a not-even-prime-time Monday 1st round match)? The other top two watched matches were on ABC on a Saturday afternoon. Sunday could be a big one...
     
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  17. bbsbt

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    Feb 26, 2003
    That 2010 USA-ENG game was on ABC.
    The USA-GHANA match on Monday was on ESPN.
    We are not comparing apples to apples here.
     
  18. Brasitusa

    Brasitusa Member+

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    May 14, 2014
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    New York City FC
    This is exactly right and is the real number.

    19 million... on a Monday 6 PM.
    this is impressive and anybody who still thinks soccer is not popular in America is a moron.

    This MUST SEE video compilation will put any silly idea that Americans don't like soccer to rest, and will shut up the "who cares, it's just soccer!" crowd. Well, these Americans do care:

     
  19. Brasitusa

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    AC Milan
    Italy
    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Darn, why was that video compilation removed from YouTube? It was just images of American soccer fans cheering the team during the Ghana game. WTF?

    Anyway, whoever had the time to see it was in for a treat. Too bad it was removed.
     
  20. Brasitusa

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    AC Milan
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    May 14, 2014
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Final viewership figures for USA vs. Ghana, considering all four sources (sometimes people forget to add them up): more than 19 million spectators, on ESPN, Univision, WatchESPN.com and app, UnivisionDeportes.com and app.
    This topples every game of the NBA final series, and it was on a Monday late afternoon in the East Coast and mid-afternoon in the West Coast, out of prime time TV. Most likely this Sunday's USA vs. Portugal will top that, given that people won't be stuck at work or commuting from work.
     
  21. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The TV/online numbers from USA-Portugal:

    And on Monday afternoon we found out the actual number of people that watched the match, over 24 million. Over 18 million people watched the match on ESPN, while 6.5 million watched the match on Univision. The combined number is larger than the total audience that watched the 1999 Women's World Cup Final, the previous record holder. Not even included in this number is the over one million people who watched the match on WatchESPN.

    24.5 million on cable TV
    1.373 million on ESPN online
    Haven't seen the Univision online number.

    At least 25.8 million Americans saw the game.
     
  22. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England

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