Rebuilding Madrid, One Pass at a Time - The Transfers, Rumors & Lies Thread

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  1. Anon.

    Anon. Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
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    With 2 or even 3 CBs leaving next summer, it makes Konaté even more attractive for the board. He's currently on very low wages at Liverpool, compared to VvD, so the finances would make it an extremely favour move for Perez. That's the reality.
     
  2. boeder

    boeder Member+

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    Feb 27, 2013
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    I think Liverpool will meet his wage demands or get very near to them.
     
  3. Anon.

    Anon. Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
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    I think they're going to give big wages to Guehi. Although, I'd prefer we go for Guehi instead of Konaté, out of the two of them.
     
  4. boeder

    boeder Member+

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    Feb 27, 2013
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    Brazil
    Yeah I'd go with Guehi, too but that doesn't say much tbh, he's ever so slightly better than Konaté and his injury profile is good.

    I view Konaté as non-prime Rudiger 2.0 + massive injury risk. To the club, there is a French connection and the financials are lucrative. Big question marks on his performance.

    Both Guehi and Konaté are not great defenders IMO.

    Now that we are reportedly looking at Wharton, one has to ask what happened to the club's media narrative that English players don't work in Spain with Jude being the exception since he came from the Bundesliga?
     
  5. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    Didn't they sign Trent who's English and came from PL? Some journos mood swing isn't club's narrative. When Bale joined, there were articles how British players except Mcmanaman haven't had proper success at RM.

    Anyways, Paz is likely to be the midfield signing next summer than Wharton for 100 ME+. We already have Jude, Fede, Tcho as established starters with Arda getting an opportunity to play a lot this season.

    With Paz coming back, don't see a big money midfield signing even if some speculate Camavinga could leave. If Ceballos leaves, replacement will be a squad player rather than 100 M one.

    Xabi also had high praise for Camavinga. He could have 2023-24 type season if he stays healthy.



     
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  6. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    Xabi had high praise for Ceballos as well as he was loading his clothes and valuables into a cannon to shoot them to mars.

    He's being positive about the players, that's good process, but we'll see on the field who he trusts and how much.
     
  7. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    The difference is that Camavinga has been crucial in our recent successes (not a bystander) and is infinitely more talented than Ceballos. Xabi would be an absolute idiot if he didn't mean what he said about Camavinga, and I don't think Xabi is an absolute idiot. Camavinga needs to stay healthy, that's his one and only challenge. The rest will follow.
     
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  8. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Really wonderful but there's really only 3 to 4 spots max on the field for Camavinga so for him to play somebody has to sit.

    Does Guler hit the bench? Tchouameni? Valverde?

    One day we'll figure out that some players will simply not be what we envision them to be simply because you can't have them on the field together.
     
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  9. Ahmadi8

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    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
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    Real Madrid
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    Bahrain
    Yup no doubt that is true. One of these guys will end up in the same situation as Rodrygo, as rotational piece that will have other clubs chasing after them.
     
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  10. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    More than one..

    We have Nico Paz coming back as a project with two projects already loading at the club.
     
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  11. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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  12. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Don't ask me why but I definitely feel like multiple clubs are going to ask for regulation to add compensation to "out of contract" players in case they leave.

    They tried to get around the issue by handing out loyalty bonuses but other clubs now offer a signing bonus to compete with that.
     
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  13. Ahmadi8

    Ahmadi8 Member+

    Apr 14, 2005
    Bahrain
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    Bahrain
    Wouldn't that go against some labor laws in European countries?
     
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  14. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    You posted something, I replied to your point. Now you're talking about something else. Yeah, I know how this goes. I'm not interested in entertaining you with a back-and-forth where the goalposts are moved with every post.
     
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  15. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Probably, but most things in football contracts probably do. Why can't I just quit my job at Tottenham and go to work for Madrid?

    It's a constant dance between allowed and tolerated.

    We introduced compensation fees for young players going from the academy to play pro elsewhere as well, the "development fees".

    Juventus, Bayern and PSG have signaled being in support if this happens. I think we can definitely see something, plenty of proposals being prepared.

    I'm sorry you felt let down at the quality of our exchange. I will make a mental note to include a funny anti Barca joke the next time to make it worth your while.
     
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  16. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    Players union wouldn't want to go back to pre-bosman ruling scenario. RM used to give 6 year deals mostly and now Chelsea gives 8-9 year deals.

    More rich clubs will start doing that than a scenario where courts allow clubs to ask for transfer fee to release a player out of contract while they can get rid of players they don't want when contract ends.
     
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  17. libertao

    libertao Member+

    Mar 15, 2006
    True, like Haaland's 10-year contract. Probably not long before we see some all-time worst contracts ever when they give a 9-year contract to a guy who becomes an absolute bust due to injury or form (like Kaka and Hazard but with contracts nearly twice as long).
     
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  18. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Players unions in football are softer than a chocolate bar that's been in the sun for an entire day.

    Remember how they voiced concerns with the club world cup and fifa said "we sat down with the players union and came to a resolve" and multiple unions posted messages that they never heard of such a meeting.
     
  19. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    Players involved in CWC didn't create any drama and reports came out that RM players agreed financial package for playing in the tournament. Reckon that must have been the case for other clubs in CWC as well. If players involved in CWC revolted, scenario would have changed.

    Bosman ruling happened for a reason. Clubs holding players hostage after contract ending to get a fee was ridiculous. Meanwhile players have no benefit if a club doesn't want to keep them once contract expires.

    Juve themselves signed Pogba, Alves, Jonathan David as free agents. PSG being butthurt about Mbappe not gonna make players agree to unilateral pre-bosman era.

    Change happening is rich clubs giving players long contracts to avoid bosman situation.
     
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  20. Anon.

    Anon. Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
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    When it comes to employment laws and contracts in the EU, irrespective of it being football or any other sport for that matter, I don't see the ECJ accepting a pre-Bosman ruling. It's as a simple as that. There's a greater chance of the EU becoming decommissioned.
     
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  21. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
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    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Could be Flo's next "power move". Clubs been all over the map with it's politics lately.

    Won't be at all surprised if Vinicius wins the WC and BDO next year then leaves on a free transfer the following winter/summer only to have Florentino stage a press conference where he reveals a napkin they played a game of tic-tac-toe and the bet was that if Flo won (he did) Vini would agree to a lifetime Madrid contract.
     
  22. REALFOREVER

    REALFOREVER Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    The CB situation may not be as dire as it first appeared earlier and may not necessarily be a priority next summer.

    Huijson seems to be the real deal and Militao is holding up healthwise. That is your starting duo right there. Rudiger has been relegated to the 3rd CB which is fine. Gives him time to regain his form. Asensio is the 4th CB, and I imagine his brain seizures this past summer is probably not indicative of his regular play. If he regains his old form, then he suits the 4th CB role just fine.

    Then you got Aguado and Joan who are turning heads at Castilla.

    It would not surprise me if they extend Rudiger an additional year if he regains his old form. He basically acts as a bridge until 1 of the 2 Castilla youngsters make the jump.

    If Konate or Guehi are available on frees, well fine. But they may not be critical signings if everything else falls into place. It will become clearer in the Spring.
     
  23. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    In fact, the CJEU jurisprudence is heading quite in the opposite way of 'pre-Bosman'. The CJEU is coming hard on the governing bodies, as seen in the Diarra case and the Seraing case. The Diarra case in particular seems to be a sharp move away from what is proposed by @4x4s.
     
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  24. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    When Huijsen and/or Militao miss time with an injury this season, it's going to feel much more dire than at this current moment. Not to mention Rudiger can decide to leave in the summer for a big contract post-World Cup.
     
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  25. REALFOREVER

    REALFOREVER Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    I imagine they will know by January if Rudiger is leaving. Which is the same time those contacts with upcoming free agents pick up steam. If Rudiger is sitting on the fence, they will just go out into the market.
     
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