We just need to accept that whoever the next manager is, they will not satisfy the Madrid heirarchy/players/fanbase no matter the name. There are very few truly accomplished managers left in the selection pool, and certain managers will simply never coach Madrid because of their Barca history (Pep/Enrique). I think Madrid are in for a rough ride for a while. I don't know if Scaloni is a good pick. Max Allegri already spit in Madrid's face before, saying he preferred Juventus. To embarrass Florentino publicly alone probably gets him taken off the shortlist. Ditto for Klopp.
If they aren't doing a roster overhaul, I'm all in for a Mourinho comeback, just for the entertainment value.
A box to box isn’t just running box to box. It’s positioning on both sides of the pitch. It’s being the midfielder that is the 5th defender, that is an outlet for ball progression up the field, and is the trailing attacker into the box. It demands extreme intelligence and workrate, both of which we don’t have in a midfielder. Jude can be that if he wants, but he hasn’t committed to it and it seems early success got to his head. Rios is a very intelligent player. I’ve watched him a couple of times live, his positioning off the ball is top tier. Work rate is very high. Very smart on the ball, and is a leader on the pitch. In particular his defensive positioning is what stood out.
intelligent, great positioning and high work rate. Everything we lack in various parts of the pitch. I'm sold lol
Seems he is another ball carrier with high workrate like a Jude or a Fede, or even a Camavinga. (With slight variations, but still the same archetype) I'de rather find a midfield passer, tempo setter.
Scorched earth tactic. Why not at this point. I hardly find any players on this roster I can root for. Bring him in. Weed out the mental midgets in this team with no backbone/accountability. Then work on a real rebuild in 2027.
Rios would be a nice player for depth and dynamic don’t know he fits the typical high profile that we we seem to like though
Agreed. Tonali is the option I'd go for and that's only because Vitinha is impossible. I hope the club doesn't put more players ahead of a great youth player in Thiago. I want to see significant minutes being given to him, he has shown quality in the biggest of games. He deserves the spot.
I've really liked Tonali since i started watching him after he signed with Newcastle. He's a smooth player with a good footballing brain. But for me, he is a like a really great backup and not a full time starter at a club like ours. Good player, if we want dependable depth we could do a lot worse. I still maintain as i have for a couple of years now, Rodrigo would be a good addition to this group. Even if we get 2 good years from him on a 3 year contract. Yea i know he's had a knee injury which everyone seems to think just ends careers and he is 30 and all that. Not every player (see Tonali) NEEDS to be the absolute best at the position for them to make the collective better. Him and Bernardo (no i am not advocating for his signing, but he will sign for Barcelona and hurt us) played really well in the biggest game of their season yesterday. If nothing else we need an adult in the room. This group needs a little guidance to put it back on track to being a hard working team again. Pity we can't find a proper coach who can take care of that stuff for us. The real shame is not signing Zubimendi when he was right there man. Smh.
I’m not as close to it, but watching Arsenal yesterday, I don’t see what the fuss is about him. Pretty anonymous for the run of the game. I know it’s easy to say, if we only had “so and so” but the truth is, which midfielder will sit Jude, Fede or Tchoumeni? Not many, so it’s kind of an exercise in futility to think we’re one signing away from winning a treble.
Never said that bro. We need a starting CB and starting midfielder AND a proper coach who will get the best of all these amazing players the club has already bought, not another guy on the spectrum like Xabi (lack of backbone was the biggest disappointment) or Emery or Tuchel who can't speak to people.
I’m just not as optimistic, since the reality is we have a number of big name players that are chiseled into the starting 11 when fit. We’ve seen the sample size of 2 years now and it’s just not working. For me it’s addition by subtraction. Who’s leaving to make room for new signings?
Interested to know, what does Tonali offer that Fede doesn’t already? Fede, statistically, is worlds better defensively (work rate, ball recovery, pressing), ball progression, and tactical flexibility. Tonali adds nothing new to this midfield. It’s adding more of the same. Not to mention his problematic history. We need to get past these flashy names and find profiles that are complimentary that can take us to a different level.
Unless a big name leaves (€70-100m), I don't see the club making significant business in the transfer market. What I think will happen: - In: Paz, Endrick, Jacabo Ramon, Rudiger (renewal), Pitarch (promotion) - Out: Alaba, Carvajal, Ceballos Cuckeloa and the media mouthpieces have been incessantly stressing that the club has no technical/personnel deficiencies, refs fvcked us in LaLiga and UCL. Tebas and Ceferin hate us, otherwise we are faultless.
Against Bayern the team struggled to keep possession. I'm not advocating to be a possession team but they needed to do much better than just hoofing and praying that game. Tonali is good in tight spaces and good at keeping the ball. We missed that the most. Camavinga has the confidence but the skill is lacking a .5 a meter wrong dribble and you lose it in tight spaces. Valverde strength is his stride. He's an unstoppable freight train if the opponent give him the space. Arda is still learning the new position he's getting better every game. Bellingham has the skills but you can't just have one midfielder be able to move the ball up. I like Thiago a lot, he has shown skill and confidence not to rush possession, even in tight spaces and while being pressured. He keeps the ball and finds the available option. Should add this is a World Cup year, we know how Perez loves chasing the standout player in the competition. Unless that player is already on the team. Might dictate the summer transfers.
I like Tonali - but i have a very hard time making a move for a player who placed bets on his own matches.
Van der Vart: "Kees Smit is just an incredibly good player. We often rush to rate someone as good, but in this case he is really good. If he continues to progress like this, he will certainly end up at Real Madrid or one of the biggest clubs in the world, which for me is Real Madrid."
I will never belittle Xabi Alonso so that I can somehow assuage the feeling from the cluster******** that this team is. This was a guy that checked literally all the boxes and could have been a legendary coach if we only chose him and not the babies in this squad. Never in his career was there any indication that he is a poor communicator. He is just a professional. The "lack of backbone" narrative is really disappointing. He bet that the club would support him over the players, and he lost. Thats on Florentino, not on him. What difference does it make if he got fired by going in an open war a month earlier? He would have just stooped down to Vinicius and co level. He fought until the very end to get some results so that he can buy enough time to continue implementing his vision, no matter how hard he knew it was going to be. He never quit. I have nothing but respect for Xabi, and when the moment came for the club to make the right choice, Florentino chose Vinicius and co. Hope that it doesn't give him sleep at night.
Xabi wasn't up for the job should have never been hired and was easily at his wits end by November. The pressure was literally crushing him and we could see it by his mannerisms and on his face. He was exposed so badly Liverpool who wanted him like us are rumored to rather keep Arne Slot then bring in Xabi. It's not all Xabi's fault of course because the fault is the cancerous management led by JAS. However the year before when Carlo Ancelotti was given even less support he was mocked, ridiculed and seen as finished. Xabi? Same people only ha excuses. After all what is more important than the truth? That's right, being "right" anonymously online.
Whats most important is to get one over your "enemies" on a football board. Good job buddy, another victory. "you could see it by the mannerisms and his face" top analysis
Before all that, Perez—or whoever is actually running the club—needs to reassert authority and remind the squad where they stand. No player should ever be bigger than the institution. The problem is, how do you claw that power back once you’ve already handed them the reins, pulled the plug on the project because they were rotated and overworked in training, placed your bets on Mr. Backbone to salvage the season with good vibes, donuts in the morning, and the "it's my fault" routine and are now systemically blaming refereeing for the failures this season?
You're not my enemy you're some random guy on an internet forum who likes to play devils advocate for attention. My point about Xabi stands. He was an abject failure at Madrid and those who merely thought a managerial change would change the fact the President's hired man controls the team were fooled into thinking a very good coach was our biggest issue.