Rebuilding Madrid, One Pass at a Time - The Transfers, Rumors & Lies Thread

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  1. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
    London
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    Does paying the buyout clause mean we can’t defer the transfer fee like we would be able to if we sign a player through a negotiated bid? I never knew this.

    I’d assume we amortise transfer fees for any signing, buyout clause or not, during the lifespan of the players’ contract at the point of signing the deal.

    We’ve never been in trouble with FFP right …
     
  2. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
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    Alaba was a proven defender when Perez gave him that salary. No one could poredict his injuries at that time. Guehi is a newcomer. His salary should be around Huijensen or Carreras. He is being paid more than them.
     
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  3. boeder

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    Feb 27, 2013
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    I disagree. Alaba was never a proven top-quality CB in Germany. He also spent a fair amount of time at LB and CM/DM at Bayern but he was a free agent from an elite club.
     
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  4. 4x4s

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    #3529 4x4s, Feb 11, 2026
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    He was a worldclass player with the huge advantage of being a natural in three positions on the field. You have to look long and hard before you find any CB that can cross and pass like that.

    Getting Alaba was great process, it's just that the injury setbacks crushed the entire outlook of what the signing could be. He's also a look into what Militao will be going forward (who's signed to 2028).

    Alaba had a relatively normal injury history for both Bayern and Madrid until the ACL tear and the surgery and recovery period that followed it.
     
  5. Bear Crotch

    Bear Crotch Member+

    Jan 2, 2008
    Ohio, United States
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    I know people have been saying the ACL isn't a death sentence in modern football but I still think it is for quite a few players.
     
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  6. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
    London
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    Alaba was an elite player. Anyone who likes football liked watching him play. In his first season with us he was a general when we had the ball, basically filled the Ramos void without any problem.

    Defensively he played CB in Bayerns CL win, and then our CL win. Yes he was in his absolute prime as a LB probably but he has tremendous success playing CB as well, before the injuries.

    Guehi, Konate, Upamecano, Shlotterback etc. these guys aren’t on the level that Alaba was, not really even close.
     
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  7. 4x4s

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    Yeah, in his case it was a career death blow. When a surgeon looks at an MRI and starts crying it says a lot.
     
  8. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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  9. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Good value, hope we get this done.
     
  10. HZinho

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    Apr 2, 2013
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    Yeah, that's a player I'd sign for that fee. He can immediately slot into the starting line-up and provide substantial value. Do it!
     
  11. -Reivax-

    -Reivax- Member+

    Aug 10, 2010
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    Would be a good signing.
     
  12. boeder

    boeder Member+

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    Feb 27, 2013
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    Yeah I'm going to forever disagree with the takes on Alaba being an "elite" CB at Bayern or in his first season at RM
     
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  13. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    It really depends on what you consider elite. His toolbox made him a unique and valuable player to sign.
     
  14. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
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    Alaba at least was well-decorated before Madrid. He won everything in Munich, and was named on the UEFA Team of the Year and Bundesliga Team of the Year many times. I knew that trophies or even personal awards might mean nothing, but if Perez did not give him a big salary, someone would give him one. Besides, I said that he was a "proven defender". And he stepped right into Ramos' shoes and made us to forget about one of the greatest defenders in Madrid's history. We cannot blame him for being injured after that.

    Guehi on the other hand is a prospect.
     
  15. boeder

    boeder Member+

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    Feb 27, 2013
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    My main issue is with the club's narrative and the bullsh!t it spews to excuse itself from doing business in the winter (Guehi is an example).

    Again Alaba is a side point. But I don't think he made us forget Ramos, one of the best CBs of all time, not even close. His "amazing" first season would have been viewed in a drastically different light if not for Benzema, Rodrygo and Cortouis pulling rabbits out of their asses KO game after another. His defensive adultery was quite the spectacle in Europe and in the league.

    His next season was a disgrace then he checked-in permanently into the clinic. Not his fault entirely. IMO Alaba was a bad deal overall.
     
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  16. AllWhites

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    Aug 11, 2015
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    I think Kobe Mainoo (contract expires 2027) would be a decent alternative to vitinha than an enzo or kees smit
     
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  17. AllWhites

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    Aug 11, 2015
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    Also, we should not under any circumstances bring back Endrick. People have their minds deluded by tiktok goals but here he would get buried for the amount of mistakes he makes to get to one of those highlights.

    Needless to say, Franco should also go on loan and stay there until he learns to receive a ball.

    Nico Paz tho, should definitely comeback and I believe he replaces Arda in the starting lineup. Much stronger, much more press resistant and same level of passing and left foot.
     
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  18. AllWhites

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    Aug 11, 2015
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    I don't think there is a shortage of good young players that can make this team better but I do think our recruitment has been piss poor. Its like they just bring any kid off the streets without the slightest film study on them. There have been many technically gifted young players that have come to the scene in other teams but we always seem to get the big brute oafs or the shiny new toy with zero technical ability to play ball (and sideways passing doesn't count) or think under pressure.
     
  19. 4x4s

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    Would you care to be more precise about the players you're talking about?
     
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  20. MiamiNative0722

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    May 25, 2013
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    Rumor that Schlotterbeck has given a like to a post displaying him in a Real Madrid jersey for next season
     
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  21. Galatico

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    Aug 15, 2019
    Hope he comes. I'm sure Bayern would love to have him as well.
     
  22. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    Honestly not a fan of Schlotterbeck. I don’t think he’s fast enough and he’s another positional liability at times. But, that’s seems to be our profile for CB I guess.
     
  23. AllWhites

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    Aug 11, 2015
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    #3548 AllWhites, Feb 12, 2026
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    Estevao Willian
    Desire Doue
    Kenan Yildiz
    Lennart Karl
    Rodrigo Mora
    Rodrigo Mendoza
    Yan Diomande
    Joao Neves
    Kobbie Mainoo
    Warren Zaire-Emery
    Tom Bischof
    Michael Olise
    Elliot Anderson
    Ethan Nwaneri
    Hugo Ekitike
    Tijjani Reijnders
    Ryan Cherki
    Omar Marmoush
    the rest of the city team which they have completely rebuilt in 2 years with young technical players.

    Im not saying get these players now, obviously its too late and easy to single them out now in hindsight but a year or 2 ago, these were either academy players in big clubs or played in second tier teams. But all of them, technically sound.

    Our scouting strategy seems like just go with whatever name the next south american talent agency shouts the loudest without doing any homework on our end.

    Hate to single him out but even from a cursory youtube highlight it was evident that franco had zero fundamentals and was bumbling about in River. But he scored some screamers from 40 yards and thats all it takes to convince us it seems. Even arda, has a good game against us, scores some goals for turkey, next he is the turkish messi so we have to get him. But who does the career wide analysis of these players, can this player play in tight spaces, what is their decision making, do they have defensive capabilities etc. It feels like our recruitment chases hype than actually evaluate a player.

    And I don't agree that you never know what a young player will turn out to be. Just go look at modric at 20 bossing the england national team. The fundamentals or lack thereof are always there from the beginning and its a scouts job to spot that.
     
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  24. 4x4s

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    #3549 4x4s, Feb 13, 2026
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    I don't think a lot of those players are superior talents or extremely technical. I like Olise, a guy like Karl we have zero access to for example, we should be developing guys like him. Yildiz is practically in Guler's talent pool, a lot of those players are generally not any more talented or "technical" than the players we sign, or the guys we have. I think this is a "grass is greener" thing.

    Marmoush was horrendously overpriced.

    One of the main reasons we've been pretty bad this season is because we've been horribly coached from beginning to end. Giving ourselves high fives for doing pit pat passes vs teams we crushed by 4 goals with the prior coaching regime, and having a puppet right now.

    You out Guler on the market right now and teams that already have several of the players you mentioned come swinging with offers. I know for a fact that Bayern directly approached the club for Arda last summer.
     
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  25. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    #3550 Saeta Rubia, Feb 13, 2026
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    Ekitike failed at PSG though Ligue 1 move from Reims to PSG was supposed to be straight forward for him, Mainoo was bench warmer and almost out of Utd, Estevao is a rotation player who produces once in a while at Chelsea that doesn't have any standout wingers

    We only talk about the highlights of many of these players during their developmental phase. Yildiz for example while with Guler we watch every minute of his lowlights too.

    PSG signings like Neves, Doue are the ones who delivered right away and Olise at Bayern. City signed a lot of flops struggling to replace Silva, KDB and the new ones that are starting are not fully convincing seen like Huijsen at RM. Omar had a hot start as mid season signing last year and now in flop territory not playing much and Semenyo delivering right now.

    They have a world class coach in Pep and this has been arguably his weakest squad despite spending 800 M odd in last 2 years trying to replace legends.

    Haaland's goals carried them for several games this season much like Mbappe scoring so much have us just 1 point behind Barca despite coaching mess situation.
     
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