Rebuilding Madrid, One Pass at a Time - The Transfers, Rumors & Lies Thread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by Raul-7, Jul 9, 2025.

  1. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Maybe, I don't know. But it just seems extremely unlikely that in the whole world of football, there isn't a single player with that profile that can provide the added value to this team. It seems fairly lazy to me. PSG didn't get Vitinha in his prime (his midfield colleague was also a bullseye acquisition by PSG, by the way), nor did Barca find Pedri in the garbage bin. Not to mention Zubimendi was there begging for us to sign him. There are always options, but it seems it's a choice by the club not to make an effort.

    In any case, that allegedly no one in the market fits that profile doesn't mean Jude will miraculously be able to do that job for us. I just don't see it. He does have a lot of other elite qualities though, which the team (as well as Jude!) should utilize significantly better going forward.
     
  2. Doni

    Doni Member+

    Dec 4, 2010
    London
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    No I just mean there isn’t a player who can come in and control the tempo like Kroos and Modric did, imo that requires a good degree of trust and leadership as well as the actual ability to do so.

    In terms of ability (but not willingness), for me
    Jude can do that better than anyone else in the market. But yeah, I agree, there will be other good central mids who have qualities which will help us improve.
     
  3. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    Jude has the ability, it doesn’t want to play deeper and be the one who can dictate play.

    He’s gotten the taste of goals and getting forward and doesn’t want to do the dirty work.
     
  4. Nathanial Essex

    Nathanial Essex Member+

    Real Madrid
    England
    Mar 19, 2017
    That's very harsh. He's probably the hardest working person in midfield and I'm sure there are stats to back it up.
     
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  5. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    He has a ton on ground to cover defensively due to how high up he plays when we have possession. Burns a lot of energy defensively yet not as effective due to this.
     
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  6. Seoul Villan

    Seoul Villan Member+

    Feb 16, 2011
    In a true 4-3-3, the mf isn’t pressed so high up where they are in the advanced attack positions, which Jude is always in.

    If we was more central and passing the ball he wouldn’t be so gassed to recover.

    But if you play Jude deeper, Fede/Tchoumeni become redundant, and we can’t have that….
     
  7. boeder

    boeder Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    While Bellingham is forced to cover a lot of ground behind Junior because the Brazilian refuses to effectively trackback and cover (which is his job as a winger), that doesn't excuse the Englishman's poor passing. He's created 4 big chances all season (0 in CL) and has 1.2 key passes per game (all competitions)

    I suspect that even Bellingham doesn't know his role on the pitch. He improvises. Very little output in the end but a lot of running and hustling..as a €130m "elite" midfielder that's not enough.
     
  8. PeXXeR

    PeXXeR Member

    Real Madrid
    Sep 24, 2023
    I love Jude, however I think the coach needs to pick a role for him and just let him focus on that.

    He has the size, he can thread a pass, the only thing he lacks is the engine, however I feel he would be a very good CM.

    There's no need for him to score anymore.

    Someone mentioned Tonali earlier, I doubt we would see him here because of the gambling stuff but he is good.
     
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  9. boeder

    boeder Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Players > coach
     
  10. benny_madridista

    Real Madrid
    Nov 30, 2020
    Why do they necessarily have to "control the tempo like Kroos and Modric did"? You're setting some rather unrealistic expectations there. They only have to do it better than our current crop of midfielders, shouldn't be too hard to find such a player.
    And no, I haven't seen anything from Jude that makes me think he's capable of doing it well.
     
  11. benny_madridista

    Real Madrid
    Nov 30, 2020
    The reality is Jude is not such a great creator with the ball.
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  12. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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  13. Raul-7

    Raul-7 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 17, 2006
    #3513 Raul-7, Feb 10, 2026
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    That senile egomaniac is destroying the club with his lack of spending and poor buying strategies.
     
  14. WhiteRM

    WhiteRM Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 17, 2024
    You know what his salary at City or you just trolling?
     
  15. boeder

    boeder Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Guehi nets €3.5m P/Y less than Alaba :ROFLMAO:
     
  16. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    Utterly disgusting from the management. Borderline sabotage to the teams Football ambitions
     
  17. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    In the summer we're probably going to bring in someone like Schlotterbeck or even Romero.
     
  18. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    I don’t even trust this management to make the right choices anymore so I won’t hold my breath.
     
  19. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    He would also come with a transfer fee and everything that comes along with it.
     
  20. boeder

    boeder Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    €20m?

    Alaba is the highest paid CB in the top 5 leagues IIRC and only VVD comes close. So we shouldn't be wagging fingers at other clubs..

    It's not about Guehi or x or y..it's the club's farcical narrative regarding the winter transfer market..
     
  21. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I agree with that, its just that clubs dont pay wages and transfer fees out of a different pocket.

    Also lets be honest, i dont think most players would move away from a top Premier League spot to join us.
     
  22. boeder

    boeder Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Bonuses are included in the salary sum which I put. The transfer fee €20m, for e.g. is amortized over 5 years and is paid over a couple of years. Our financial state is fine (at least the official numbers).

    It's hard to say what would have happened because we do not even acknowledge the existence of the January window. We didn't bother.
     
  23. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Even during the summer, for all the "big boss talk", we pretty much paid up without negotiation. Got stuffed in a locker in every transfer.
     
  24. boeder

    boeder Member+

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Feb 27, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Partially because we defer reinforcements until they become an absolute critical need.

    €50-55m for Carreras was money well spent imo and a reasonable price for today's market. Huijsen would have gone for much higher if to an EPL side.

    We pay anything out of FOMO so I don't want to comment on what we paid for Endrick and Mastantuono..
     
  25. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    It's not about the amount, it's that we get crushed and pay full buyout straining our immediate financial and FFP situation while everybody else defers payments to 2087.

    we're desperate so we're forced to pay up, right away.
     

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