Really Random Thoughts - 2024

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  1. newterp

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    haha - as noted on RAWK - the only responses Republicans are allowed to this are:

    1) Thoughts and Prayers
    2) This is the price of freedom
    3) you just have to live with it
     
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  2. Samarkand

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    May 28, 2001
    The Libertarian Party of New Hampshire, in case you were wondering.


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  3. Samarkand

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    May 28, 2001
    They deleted the tweet, claiming censorship and then clarified that their tweet was not advocating for Harris’ assassination while also claiming the libertarians are the most oppressed minority.

    Now they were not geographically specific, and while they probably meant the most oppressed minority in the US, it’s quite possible they meant in the world. Or perhaps the Milky Way.
     
  4. zaqualung

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  5. SamScouse

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    about time someone brought Tom Brady down to earth .... :D:D

    The NFL great got serenaded on Monday with an obscene jeer as he attended a British soccer match between Birmingham City, of which he owns a 3.3% stake, and the Wrexham squad, owned by actors Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney.

    “Who the ********, who the ********, who the ********ing hell are you? Who the ********ing hell are you,” they chanted, as captured in footage from the crowd. The poster called it a “Wrexham welcome.”
     
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  6. speker

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    I watched that game . Thought Birmingham have a nice team that plays good football. I was impressed by their young forward Stansfield.

    I'm also among the ppl who have followed the fortunes of Wrexham these past few years but they were second best all over the pitch in this one.
     
  7. LiverpoolFanatic

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    Feb 19, 2000
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    That account tweets stupid shit all of the time. Once they tweeted that child labor should be brought back and the national libertarian party denounced it as not being in line with party values.
     
  8. SamScouse

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    Jun 1, 2015
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    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/18/election-harris-endorsement-republicans

    More than 100 Republican former national security and foreign policy officials on Wednesday endorsed Kamala Harris for president in a joint letter, calling Donald Trump “unfit to serve” another term in the White House.

    Former officials from the presidential administrations of Republicans Ronald Reagan, George H W Bush, George W Bush and Donald Trump, as well as Democrats Bill Clinton and Barack Obama voiced their support for Harris, the Democratic nominee for president in this November’s election. They were joined by some former GOP members of Congress.


    The letter said: “We believe that the president of the United States must be a principled, serious, and steady leader.”

    It went on: “We expect to disagree with Kamala Harris on many domestic and foreign policy issues, but we believe that she possesses the essential qualities to serve as president and Donald Trump does not. We therefore support her election to be president.”

    Among the signees were former defense secretaries William Cohen and Chuck Hagel, who served in the Clinton and Obama administrations, respectively. Others include William Webster, a former CIA and FBI director under the Reagan and first Bush administrations, as well as Michael Hayden, a former CIA and NSA director under the younger Bush and the Obama administrations.

    “We firmly oppose the election of Donald Trump. As president, he promoted daily chaos in government, praised our enemies and undermined our allies, politicized the military and disparaged our veterans, prioritized his personal interest above American interests, and betrayed our values, democracy, and this country’s founding document,” the letter added.
     
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  9. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    Question: How are you going to bring down the cost of food and groceries?

    Answer:
    Good. Very good. Thank you. So we have to start always with energy. Always. I don’t want to be boring about it, but there’s no bigger subject. It covers everything. If you make donuts, if you make cars, whatever you make, energy is a big deal, and we’re going to get that. It’s my ambition to get your energy bill within 12 months, down 50%. If I can do that. I’ve done a hell of a job. 5-0, not 15, fifty.

    Interest rates are going to follow and actually they’re going to follow for another reason. The economy is now not good. And interest rates, you’ll see they’ll do the rate cut and all the political stuff tomorrow, I think. And, you know, will he do a half a point? Will he do a quarter of a point?

    But the reason is because the economy is not good, otherwise you wouldn’t be able to do it. But we’re going to get interest rates down and we got to work with our farmers.

    Our farmers are being decimated right now. They’re being absolutely, absolutely decimated. And, you know, one of the reasons is we allow a lot of farm product into our country.

    And we’re going to have to be a little bit like other countries. We’re not going to allow so much to come in. We’re going to let our farmers go to work.

    And I don’t know if you remember, I love the farmers because, you know, I had many meetings as president. I had this gorgeous room with this beautiful table that seats about 35 people.

    And I was with the farmers, I usually — everybody wants something. They all want subsidy. But I was with the farmers and I think you might have been there, actually, Sarah, I said, look, fellas, we’re going to get you such a beautiful subsidy, meaning I’m going to do things.

    And one of the people raises and “Sir, honestly. We don’t want a subsidy.”

    This is the first time this ever happened to me. Everyone wants — they want money. Why did they want to build windmills? We want money with these windmills. Ay-yi-yi.

    Anyway, but you know what was amazing? He said, almost tears in his eyes. “We don’t” — they were getting decimated. “We don’t want a subsidy. We just want a, you know, a fair level playing field.”

    And I said I said, nobody’s ever said that. And I have many industries and many groups of people from different things. You know, they do all different things. It’s probably the most dramatic I’ve ever seen. He didn’t want anything. All he wanted was to be able to compete fairly.

    And the reason the problem we have is other countries. They treat us very badly in that way also. They really are. And, you know, sometimes the worst countries are our so-called allies.

    I say so-called, because in many ways they’re not allies at all. They take advantage of us. They really take advantage.

    But we’re going to do with the farmers. We’re going to do what we have to do with the farmers. We’re going to put our farmers —

    And you remember the expression when I was negotiating with China, China said, well, we’re not going to deal with this because they never had anybody negotiate. They did whatever they want. They just took us like, you know, for a bunch of suckers.

    But I told the farmers, it’s going to be they’re very good negotiators. You’re going to suffer for six months and then they’re going to fold. And that’s exactly what happened.

    They folded and they agreed to buy $50 billion. You know, you might have heard the story. I said how much, I went to the secretary of agriculture. How much did they buy? He said 15. I thought he said 50. So when they’re ready to make a deal at 15 billion, I said, no, I want 50. That’s what they’ve been buying.

    They said, No, it’s 15. I said, You said 50? And he said, No, we said 15. I said, that’s okay, ask for 50 anyway, and we got it. We got it. And they buy a lot of our products.

    So we’re going to — just a great — interest rates, energy and common sense. A lot of it’s common sense, everything.

    You know, I like to say we’re the party of common sense. We want to have a strong border. How about that? We want to you know, all of a sudden they’ve changed. They didn’t want any border. They said walls don’t work.

    Two things work. What are the two things? Wheels and walls. You know, if I do, there’s a gorgeous computer down here. In about two weeks, it’s going to be obsolete. A friend of mine is in that business. He hates it.

    He said we come up with a new model and it’s that greatest. About three and a half weeks later, the damn thing is totally obsolete. The only thing that never gets obsolete is a wall and a wheel.

    And the wall is what we’re talking about now. And, you know, we built hundreds of miles of wall. We then added more than I ever said I was going to do. And then we had that bad election result, that disgusting result. And they never put it up.

    You know what they did with it? They sold it for $0.05 and it was expensive wall it was exactly what the Border Patrol wanted with the antique plane plate on top, which I always hated because I didn’t like the look of it.

    But, you know, they demonstrated that we had mountain climbers and a couple of drug climbers. These guys are amazing. They can they put 100 pounds of drugs on the back and they go up the wall like it’s nothing.

    But they couldn’t get over the plate. So all of a sudden they said, okay, I’ll put the plate on. I didn’t like it. I liked it better without the plate, but it didn’t work quite as well.

    So this is what we did. We had it. We had the best. We had a thing called Remain in Mexico. You don’t have to be a genius to know Remain in Mexico is a very good thing. And you think that was easy to get?

    I think Tijuana, Mexico was probably the fastest growing city in the history of the world. Okay? They had hundreds of thousands. They couldn’t come in when they got in. They let everybody pour into our country, the border, just to finish with the border.

    When I talk about energy, to me it’s exciting. But to a lot of people it’s not. But it gets exciting because we’ll bring down your costs, all that. But what people want to hear and I believe when I got elected, I believe it was the border that was the biggest thing. And I fixed it and I did a great job.

    And I wanted to mention it in 2020. And my people would say, Sir, nobody cares about the border. They don’t care because I had it fixed. Now I got to fix it again. I believe the border is of the greatest interest when you look at when you look at.

    When you look at what’s happening in Aurora. Okay, Take a look at Aurora. When you look at what’s happening in Ohio, the great state of Ohio, I love it. I’m way the hell up. I wish I was up 18 points in your state. But we are up. We are up. I think when people hear what I have to say, I don’t know how you can possibly lose that.

    You. I’ll tell you this and I’ll say this for Michigan. If I don’t win, you will have no auto industry. Within 2 to 3 years, it’ll all be gone. And I know you got a little bit of an increase. It doesn’t mean that’s the small stuff because it’s just a temporary thing because you will not have any manufacturing plants.

    China is going to take over all of your business because of the electric car and because they have the material. We don’t.

    What we have is a thing called the gasoline. We have gasoline. We have so much gasoline, we don’t know what to do. They don’t have gasoline. So why are we making a product that they dominate? They’re going to dominate.

    You will not have a car industry left, not even a little bit of a car industry. So and you’re going to have electric cars, but you’re going to have 7%. You’re going to have 9%, whatever it may be. And maybe someday the technology becomes so good that you can do more. I mean, you know, it’s fine.

    But right now, the battery technology isn’t there for long term. I always say I love the electric car, but they don’t go far enough and they don’t do well. You know, in Iowa, it was 20 degrees below zero. When we had our great success in Iowa, we had a great and there were cars all over the place. I said, what’s wrong with those cars? They don’t work well in cold and they don’t work very well in heat.

    But Elon’s going to figure it out because he’s great. He gave me the greatest endorsement. He figures everything and. And right now he’s got he’s got other things. I think he’s got to get a rocket up to get those two people out of there.

    I said, Elon, let’s get going. No, they’re relying on Elon to get the two people — who would like to be up there right now saying “we’re coming back home maybe in February?”

    So that was not so good. But Elon will solve the problem. He’s great, great guy. And he loves this state and he loves your whole everything you’re doing here. And he’s done a fantastic job. He really has. And if he didn’t endorse me, I would not be saying that. Okay, I have a problem. I wouldn’t be saying.
     
  10. SamScouse

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    there hasn't been a question on earth - ever - to which that is an "answer".
     
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  11. SamScouse

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    what's the source for that, Samark? I did see it earlier today but can't find it now.
     
  12. SamScouse

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  13. newterp

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    Holy shit.... (I'm sure that term was buried in that diarrhea somewhere)
     
  14. SamScouse

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  15. SamScouse

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    every effing day I see Harris getting criticized by the media for not providing enough detail on her economic plans - and the polling apparently follows this narrative.

    but the Orange Jesus gets away with this demented behaviour.

    ffs Dems - shrink that nonsense of his into 5-6 bullet points (not an easy task but do it) and create an ad showing her plan and this crap side by side.
     
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  16. burning247

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    Sep 16, 2000
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    Yeah, what is her plan?
     
  17. SamScouse

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    look it up. I'm not google :)

    what's his - that drivel?
     
  18. zaqualung

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    probably variations of continuances of the ones that are / have been helping th eeconomy greatly since the open-up from CoVid.
    US Economy is out-performing most other this past 3 years.

    if the moron and his bunch of no-nothing idiots had been in power in th etwo years when Biden managed to get a lot of stuff done 21-22, this would certainly not have been the case. In fact, the country may well had gone into a very nasty tail-spin giving these loons' penchant for empowering greedy landlords in times of crisis and economic contraction.
    Bringing back the child subsidy that was around in Covid is one policy (one that mirrors every other advanced democracy, btw) - and that's one that everyone but the super rich will like.
    Allowing usefuly qualified people such as Janet Yellin to formulate and make the economic decisions, and not cretins and mendacious creeps like Whiceverh Kock Is Still Alive and Elon Musk, etc is another
    A further attempt to reduce the burden of student debt is a third
    Further attempts to enlarge the tax base that comes in from Corporations once they are done dancing their 5% tax shenanigans...

    And more common-sense uses of democratic governance

    As Sam pointed out, the other moron candidate has no plans to effect anything useful.
     
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  19. Samarkand

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    May 28, 2001
    Let’s get one thing on the record. Lumpy will do or say anything to get elected. Words, statements, promises, none of them have any meaning. If he runs on executing all cat eating Haitians in Springfield OH, then he will do that, even if he has no intention of executing anyone. But it’ll keep him in the spotlight, keep him being talked about. That is the single most important thing to Lumpy. Being talked about, good or bad.

    As an electoral strategy, it’s not too bad, because it keeps his name up in lights, even if he has no intention of following through on what he says. And that’s the danger, isn’t it? While the world is fixated on cat eating Haitians, Harris not really being black, Project 2025, battery driven sharks and so on, Lumpy manages to keep himself current. To do this he pretty much has to manufacture an outrage du jour everyday. With each outrage outdoing the last one. So it becomes more or less performative art rather than electoral politics. That’s the pitfall for any opponent. They think they’re playing politics when in actual fact they’re competing against a performance artist who is playing by a completely different set of rules. Normal political rules don’t apply. Hell, normal rules in general don’t apply.

    Biden won in 2020 by refusing, largely, to get into the slagging match with Lumpy, focusing instead on his shortcomings and disasters in the previous 4 years. While it is fun in a car crash sort of way to expound on cable news about the latest outrage du jour, and go up against his acolytes, all it’s really achieving are spluttering responses and more name up in lights for Lumpy. The Harris campaign needs to be more grounded in policy and differentiating itself from Lumpy. Yes, point out his stupidity, but it needs to be more about her and less about him.

    Every GOP contender and Hillary Clinton has run against Lumpy on a “you won’t believe what he’s done now” strategy. That gets you nowhere when you’re trying to convince people that you will improve their lives. Lumpy doesn’t care about improving lives or not, he only cares about being elected, but he’ll claim a blood brother bond with the supposed downtrodden and voiceless. That’s the needle that the Harris campaign must, very deftly, thread. Biden is the only politician to beat Lumpy in a horse race.

    I’m not saying the Harris campaign needs to DNA map itself, like for like, with the Biden 2020 campaign, but they most definitely need to ensure they don’t model themselves on the Clinton 2016 campaign. The cable news outlets will work on the “can you believe what he has just said?” shit, even if they often give Lumpy a pass. Focus on those passes and their own policies, not on fictional missing Ohioan cats.
     
  20. zaqualung

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    Question - before I read this - If I read this (If I can find a spare week or so ... )
    WILL I INDEED be able to magicalize cheaper groceries? How does this work? Do i need a windmill...?? ;)
     
  21. Samarkand

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    May 28, 2001
    Apropos of my last post above. A few polls have come out today that show Lumpy underwater. The race is still a toss up, but Lumpy needs to regain the spotlight. So an appeal to a marginalized constituency must be in order. But pickin’s is slim when you’ve appealed to just about every supposedly marginalized community…I know!!!!

    "I saved Flavored Vaping in 2019, and it greatly helped people get off smoking. I’ll save Vaping again!"

    MAVA foreva!
     
  22. delaynomo

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  23. zaqualung

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    #949 zaqualung, Sep 20, 2024
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2024
    another couple of plans you might have missed..

    Not handing Ukarine over to the mercy of Vladimir Putin. And Not signalling in any way that such a Russian idea as the one in Ukraine will be countenanced on any Nato territory. Thirdly here: Financing Nato to said aim

    Finally - her most important policy - Putting people into Cabinet and senior governmental office whose stated intention is not to break apart, dismantle and destroy the departments they seek custody of. (Without any democratically sane plan for replacing them- unless that's a Russian style oligarchy. personally I'm in favour of policy that continues the laws and traditions of the United States, flawed as they may be. Anyone supporting Trump is either deluding themselves or not in favor of this continuance.)
     
  24. newterp

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    The NC governor candidate specifically endorsed by Trump.......

    well............


    Gross!!!
     
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