REAL MADRID VS VILREAL|La Liga Jornada #8 | 04.10.25 | 21:00 CET

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by WhiteRM, Oct 4, 2025.

  1. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    Coaches will always be stubborn because they hate being proven wrong, so many of them will die on a hill and keep playing a guy or keep a guy benched just to not concede

    not saying this is the case with Xabi, just saying this happens often
     
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  2. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    If Endrick would be anywhere near sensational he'd be playing.

    I try to be a bit more realistic and just accept that fomo may have got us here and we fell for the hype. I can't feel sorry or disappointed for a player that has done absolutely nothing for us. If he'd leave tomorrow I would have nothing worth remembering.

    I consider overweight players to be a major red flag. Being in shape is the only thing you have to worry about. If you fail at the most basic task at your job, it's on you.

    I truly feel like some players would rather call themselves a Real Madrid player than actually be playing somewhere.
     
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  3. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    A lot of assumptions there
     
  4. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    You're correct. I assume the fatty shown on the bench is Endrick. Maybe he's part of the coaching team and just looks a bit similar.
     
  5. hector_br

    hector_br BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 13, 2007
    Sensational is a bit too much. He is a good striker.

    Vitor Roque is living proof of what I've been saying. Perfect for the Brazilian level, but visibly not ready/good enough for European elite.

    I don't feel bad for Endrick because he's paid very well for these European vacations, but I'm sure he would like to play more. Had he stayed in Palmeiras a little longer, he would absolutely be the star of the championship and probably a NT starter.
     
  6. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Real Madrid
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    Colombia

    Is he getting called up for the seleccao?
     
  7. hector_br

    hector_br BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 13, 2007
    I don't think so given his injury and all. Let's see what Carlo does now that he's back.
     
  8. Toro70

    Toro70 Member+

    Nov 29, 2008
    US, CT
    Club:
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    The club insisted that he would take a loan deal to have more playing time at another club. He refused. There is no need for tearful stories how "his talent is being wasted on the bench". End of story
     
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  9. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    But I never said he was a sensational striker (or even a good one). I was talking about talent, as in prospect. I don’t think there is much to deny there. But if we’re going to misinterpret my words and act as if I said he is a sensational player or striker, then we’re talking different subjects and, therefore, past eachother.

    I also don’t feel bad for him at all – I could care less. I want what’s best for Real Madrid, and I’d like the manager to give a player with Endrick’s ceiling a proper chance, before off-loading him.

    And yes, I know you never rated him as highly as some of us here, so I do applaud your consistency.
     
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  10. Excape Goat

    Excape Goat Member+

    Mar 18, 1999
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    He is still young. And there is a winter window coming up. An loan deal will be ideal for all parties.

    Edited: When he played, he was not liked Jovic.
     
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  11. Galatico

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    Real Madrid
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    Aug 15, 2019
    I hope Endrick gets minutes and shuts all of this criticism down. I enjoyed watching him play last season. He has the talent to succeed here.
     
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  12. hector_br

    hector_br BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 13, 2007
    So he is a sensational talent but not a sensational striker? What's the difference?
     
  13. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I haven't seen anything that makes him special. Neither is he blazingly fast, nor skilled out of the ordinary. He'll be a good player i guess, but being a Real Madrid player at his age used to be an anomaly and a total priviledge, now these guys put on the shirt and figre it's totally normal.

    That's without that incredibly tryhard stuff with Bobby Charlton and whatever. I just don't see what makes the player worth the discussion.
     
  14. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
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    Palestine
    Cannon of a shot, and sharp movement into space. Pretty much all he has shown at this stage.

    If he’s refusing loan deals then he either has great confidence in his ability to succeed, or is looking for a permanent move.

    Huijsen got caught wrong side of attacker with a high line again, could have cost another goal, he needs to cut that out asap because if I’m the opponent I will be looking to exploit that. You can just about get away with being slow if you have great positioning, but being slow AND wrong side is a huge issue. He just let the attacker get inside of him instead of showing him wide.
     
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  15. hector_br

    hector_br BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 13, 2007
    So he has the basics to be a striker, now let's see what he has that makes him extraordinary.
     
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  16. Fuera del Juego

    Fuera del Juego Member+

    May 10, 2007
    Nevada
    Yep, the Huijsen thing is worrisome, but something that you'd hope could be learned/trained for. People kept talking about him being outpaced, but it was really him getting on the wrong side of his man and being oddly wide.

    Edit: I just went back and watched the play from this game a few times. It's at almost exactly 40min of the first half for anyone looking for it. I somewhat take back what I earlier said, he does get outpaced. The attacker starts his sprint while Huijsen is just running. But compounding that is that he is with the attacker center wide on Madrid's left (where the ball is and where Villarreal wins it back). As they Huijsen and the attacker turn to run, Hjuisen turns and basically runs straight vertically. If anything, he seems to almost arc toward the sideline as he run, which opens up the inside diagonal so even if the Villareal player is further back on the pitch, he isn't really closer to the goal. The ball is ideal and the Villareal player accelerates onto it leaving Huijsen outside of him and with no options once he's behind.
     
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  17. Fuera del Juego

    Fuera del Juego Member+

    May 10, 2007
    Nevada
    You are absolutely entitled to your opinion of Endrick as a striker prospect. I am myself somewhat suspicious of his prospects as a center forward after watching him at Palmeiras.

    But calling Endrick's shot "the basics of a striker" are underselling it by a few degrees. It's a genuine weapon. He just has to get to the point in other aspects of his game where he can get him into position to use it consistently.
     
  18. hector_br

    hector_br BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 13, 2007
    It is his best trait indeed, but people calling it cannon or rocket is certainly funny. All strikers must have powerful shots as part of their portfolio to succeed.
     
  19. Umar

    Umar Member+

    Sep 13, 2005
    One step ahead
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    Palestine
    They don’t all have to have powerful shots. Messi didn’t have a particularly powerful shot (I don’t remember many goals beyond 30 yards from him, whereas Ronaldo had a few from 40 yards or more) but Messi could place them perfectly. Few players have a shot that’s past the keeper before they can move, which Endrick might have.

    Endrick has potent weapons but also in my view significant deficiencies, mainly decision making, and without game time I don’t know if he will be able to improve these. Not making the right pass in training, even with top players, might get overlooked. Missing it in a match will be remembered.
     
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  20. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    Eh, I don't think I need to clarify, but maybe just for you then: e.g. one is named Endrick, the other is named Mbappe. You know, the difference between (i) a player that has the tools to become one of the best in his position but can also turn out to be a midtable striker, and (ii) a player that has already proven over a number of years to be one of if not the best in his position. Come on man, let's not be childish here.
     
  21. hector_br

    hector_br BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 13, 2007
    Hahaha, ok.
     

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