REAL MADRID vs REAL VALLADOLID | La Liga Day 2 | 24.08.2019 | 19:00 CET

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by Eddie, Aug 24, 2019.

  1. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    Oblak from Škofja Loka does not do mistakes.

    Good thing then i dislike De Gea.
     
  2. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    For me personally, Courtois is not a top crop for a long time now.
     
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  3. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    Neither is Navas though. Both have obvious flaws.
     
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  4. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    Obviously both have issues. The question is who is better suited to be main keeper. At this point what warrants Courtois starting is his price and age, while not being actually better.
     
  5. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 9, 2018
    Yep, he is a tier or two below the Oblak and Ter Segens of this world, not good enough to be Real Madrid’s main GK.
     
  6. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    Oblak is in different galaxy all together. He is the only goally for whom i would pay 100M fee.
     
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  7. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    Fact is when Keylor displays his flaws (speculative goalkeeping mostly) people bite into the argument that it isn't his fault. There is no fair battle in performance because Keylor has basically established himself as a god amongst many fans.
     
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  8. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    This is hyperbole.
     
  9. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Let's flip Courtois then, since you know he will rake in 80 ME so easily and Keylor can't generate the same revenue but can get the job done for us here.

    Oh that's right because other clubs realize Courtois needs to go to group therapy for nut meg trauma.




    Once you consider factors like the overall team play and circumstances keeper will frequently encounter, then Keylor is no doubt the guy at this moment.

    When you look at height, age only then you get different conclusion. Heck you sign random NBA player no questions asked.
     
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  10. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Navas is better though..Courtois was only top shelf when he was with Atletico.
    He will make some spectacular flying saves but in reality that is not whAt is really needed in a club like ours nor how goalies are tested for 90mins.
     
  11. RaMaaa

    RaMaaa Member+

    Feb 3, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Lunin? who is he? seriously.. he is not even should be in this debate. Totaly different point.
     
  12. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    Which is why i would start Keylor. But hey, you can`t bench 35M man on great wages.
     
  13. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Before we got Courtois there were voices that a keeper would be a sensible idea to consider, and now it's always "Keylor is elite, he would have saved that, no way we concede with Keylor in goal" at literally everything.
     
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  14. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    Courtois offers absolutely zero added value whatsoever. Besides, Keylor has earned his marks which should warrant certain benefit of the doubt. But not to the point you are trying to depict it.
     
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  15. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    60 minutes played for an entire season but apparently the future of this club.
     
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  16. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Stats prove it.
    We conceded less goals per match with Keylor .
     
  17. Aensensen

    Aensensen Member+

    Jun 10, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    It's easy to blame Kross beacuse he made a stupid mistake. It WAS his fault for losing the possesion like that. Tactics had nothing to do with that.
     
  18. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 9, 2018
    Fierro dropping some truth.
    The funny thing is that Courtois’s supposed strength which is his ability to command the air is a myth, he has the reflexes of an 80 yr grandma, he is not good with his feet and He doesn’t read the game that well which is why he mostly doesn’t come out when he should.
    Unnecessary signing is unnecessary, but hey I hear that Random Garcia is available from Villarreal, he is only 23 and would cost us 20 mil, we should snap him up.
     
  19. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 9, 2018
    That’s how the club sees him though.

    You should let the club’s management know that.
     
  20. RaMaaa

    RaMaaa Member+

    Feb 3, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    what? seriously, what the hell you are talking about?
     
  21. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    Of course it is tactics.
     
  22. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Stats don't prove anything because Courtois played in one of the worst Madrid teams ever with an inexistent defense.
     
  23. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    And Navas did too last season.
    The stats I am pointing out are games under Navas last season.. where we conceded less goals per match.
    TC against Barca = 5 goals
    Navas against Barca = 3 goals.

    This trend will continue.. the more he plays the more goals we will concede on average.
     
  24. Drouchk

    Drouchk Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 9, 2018
    I’ll spell it out, people around the club consider Lunin as our future number 1, he was supposed to gain experience and eventually take over from Keylor, Courtois’s signing ( a relatively young GL himself ) smacks of poor planning.
    Your claim that we couldn’t pass up the opportunity to sign him would be legit if he was the best GK in the world or one that’s elite tier, he is neither, no matter how cheap he was we should have maintained our initial course.
     
  25. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Big stats man.
     
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