Real Madrid vs Real Oviedo I La Liga I Match Day 36 I Estadio Bernabéu I 20:30 CET

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  1. Lyra

    Lyra Member+

    Apr 29, 2013
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    The one apologising entire fanbase should have been XA for letting his ego cloud judgment in taking off the one player prematurely, that was causing all sorta issues to barca.



    Mbappe has done worse.
     
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  2. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    The entire club is embarrassing top to bottom. Players, coaching and the leaders.

    Really worked hard to make sure they all won nothing at all.
     
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  3. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    Flo set the tone.
    Everyone else followed.
     
  4. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Yeah, you just need to see the kind of message the club has been pushing for an eternity now to figure that out.

    Xabi was most likely told to speak about the referees more often and even though he did you could see he wasn't comfortable with it, following it up with "but it doesn't matter because we have to be better" most of the time.
     
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  5. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Jupiter
    And now Flo will complete the Ultimate "us vs the world" collectible set by hiring Jose Mourinho.
     
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  6. 4x4s

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    That's the main reason he's going to be hired. They don't care about whether he can coach or not.
     
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  7. AppleBob86

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    Jan 11, 2018
    He scored more goals because there was a structure and an idea of play. Exactly.

    Not excusing anyone but Arbeloa basically shot himself there.
     
  8. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    If Florentino would hand him the weapon, he'd do it as well. A few weeks ago almost everybody doing trustworthy reporting said Arbeloa is aiming for a job at the job in whatever capacity and is fully aligning himself with what's asked from him.
     
  9. AppleBob86

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    Jan 11, 2018
    Given he’s taken “Yes man” to a whole new level I can believe it.

    Given his mood the last week or two and starting to go against his own grain in press conferences, he’s been told he won’t be staying.
     
  10. .halamadrid2.

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    Nov 5, 2010
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    Or one could see it as a bitter and selfish comment. Thinking only of himself. We didnt have a better structure in the first half of the season because we were terrible but Mbappe scored more so he is obviously happy. He and Mou are going to fall out in the first month with his lack of workrate
     
  11. Mithrandir11

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    Mar 12, 2025
    But according to the Arbeloa enthusiasts, who are now criticising this situation, everything was fine; the vibe was good and the atmosphere friendly – that’s what Valverde told us – and, unlike Xabi, Arbeloa knew how to handle these players. Still the biggest mistake of the season to let Xabi go prematurely instead of giving him the full season
     
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  12. natenate101

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    Dec 16, 2006
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    That seems unfair even if he hasn’t been at his peak for awhile now. The way his Benfica team played us in both legs this season was a solid indication that he can still come up with a solid game plan if the players buy in, especially for a knockout tie. His combativeness is definitely appealing but almost as much as for how he challenges his OWN players vs outside entities. He isn’t my choice but if he comes if he will hope he pulls a Carlo v2.0
     
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  13. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    He has complained about referees at every single stop he's been at since he left Madrid.

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    He personifies Florentino's interviews, i can see why they remained close friends even after Mou left.

    I don't mean to say he can't coach or that he'll fail, but his main attribute is to be a loud disruptive voice.
     
  14. Jenks

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    Feb 16, 2013
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    He's such a dickhead.
     
  15. undertow

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    Nov 22, 2020
    I think you've been right about this one all along. It's clear Mourinho is not being hired for coaching reasons. This whole negreira thing is a big thing for Florentino and Mourinho will now be the constant vocal voice against this. Week in week out.

    I just hope he can at least get a liga title somehow with this "everyone against us" attitude. Sometimes that is a way you can build unity in a collective. Who knows.
     
  16. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

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    Jan 11, 2018
    I think the coach has been found out by the players (the big names) and he’s contributing nothing. Fickle yes man, no back bone and he laid all that on the table the very first press conference he did.
     
  17. .halamadrid2.

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    Nov 5, 2010
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    #92 .halamadrid2., May 15, 2026
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    AA used the Carlo playbook where he defended every single player. But the me me me culture is so rife not even the buddy approach is working. Or you could chalk it down to players not respecting a newbie (same with Xabi). You'd never see this much vitriol when we had Carlo as a coach and he was the author of the "power of friendship" concept. In the end the players need an authoritarian and they have it now with Mou, the most toxic coach we've had.

    I remember seasons ago when the players were threatened with Mou hire and they'd step up just to avoid having him back. This lot need him and his authoritarian approach. A match made in heaven for the players. Will be counting down the minutes until the publics barbs start when we go through a run of poor games.
     
  18. AppleBob86

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    Jan 11, 2018
    I agree, this team needs a coach who is no nonsense and won't stand for the bullshit. This is one of the main reasons Jose is coming back (or no1 candidate at the moment). He'll bring the dressing room together imo.

    As for AA using Carlo's playbook - that was his first mistake. Carlo used that and players respected him for what he's won as a coach. He could use that against the players. AA problem was that he came from the youth and hadn't done anything as a coach. Players looked him for what he was, a temp stand-in until the club figures their next permanent manager.
     
  19. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Arbeloa simply isn't as good as Carlo at the job. If being a cool friend to the players was all it took, we'd have actors, rappers and singers coaching these teams.
     
  20. libertao

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    Mar 15, 2006
    Arbeloa is obviously a lame duck, I don't really care if Mbappe is justifiably pissed off at the whole situation this season, where RM staff misdiagnosed him, told him to keep playing through his injury (i.e. through pain) until he simply couldn't any more, then he gets heavily criticized for getting a second opinion in France, heavily criticized whenever he rests it as he should have initially.

    Every time he misses a match, haters still can't get their story straight whether he rests meaningless games for more important matches or whether he rests to dodge tough opponents in order to "pad stats" (as if he didn't score against Barca the last match he played against them), without ever considering that maybe he is ACTUALLY INJURED when he doesn't play.

    Arbeloa is the bullshitter saying it's "only logical" to bench him, as if it is UNHEARD OF to ever need five more days of rest in order to play again. Clearly Mbappe told Arbeloa he was fine to play yesterday and Arbeloa decided instead to bench him as a punishment for being injured, which I would be pissed off as hell about too, particularly as it adds more fuel to the fire that he was feigning injury for some reason before the Clasico, rather than simply being more careful with his injury than RM staff was for months this season.
     
  21. .halamadrid2.

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    Nov 5, 2010
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    Mou is the king of thinly veiled digs in the media. He might bring it back together at the start but when the bad results start piling up, this season will feel like a professional one compared to what we'll see under Mou.
     
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  22. 4x4s

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    The entire club right now.
     
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  23. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
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    Yeah, but hopefully then, when it's time to get rid of him, the team should have grown a spine like last time.

    It's up to the next coach to build on that foundation.

    Edit: I don't think the embarassment of this season could be topped off in the near future.
     
  24. .halamadrid2.

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    Nov 5, 2010
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    Mou's last season easily tops this for the biggest circus. But by then we had a couple of season with some of the biggest achievements we had seen at the time and in some ways still. This season we havent won anything and would be the second time in a row we go trophyless. Mou went out with a bang being dragged out kicking and screaming. He was universally hated within the team, only a few fringe players could stand him and that sort of brought the dressing room back together because they had a common enemy. This bunch is divided, hopefully when we see the inevitable fall out the players will hold together and not be divided.
     
  25. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Mendieta said what almost every single former player is saying. Mourinho is not the man he was ten years ago, this feels like microwaving leftovers.

    He would have preferred Raul.

    I have not heard a single former player, Real Madrid or elsewhere push for Mourinho. Canizares was saying as well that you can't just turn back time.
     
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